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Awww Geez! Not the Massachusetts electrical code!!
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I've already got the in-ceilings, so hoping for an improved design some day that brings the woofer ahead of the ceiling plane.
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LOL 
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Axiom M5HP VP160 M3 ADA1000
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Yeah...those! Ok, the "post EQ" curves are not downward-tilting (see 6th verse at link below) like the "pre-EQ" curves but cutting Audyssey off at 500Hz could fix that.
https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/430664/Re:_We_six_curves_of_Axiom_are#Post430652
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Awww Geez! Not the Massachusetts electrical code!! Yah, there seems to be some interpretation issues with the electrical inspector (think he pushing for a "real electrician" to do my in-wall network and speaker wiring ... ). I'm sure you don't get that up north!
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Of course there are interpretation issues. Chalk that up to the use of language. That's why we have math; to avoid misunderstandings.
Up here we can do whatever we want to our igloos.
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If I assume that the post your referring to is mine (I decided not to use the M3c for my Atmos ceiling because of concerns with imaging). My thinking:
Atmos is an object placement format. The movies sound engineer states “this object is at this point in 3D space and here’s it’s audio track”. Given that infomation each play back system (yours, mine, your local movie theater, etc) figures out how to get it there by using its unique speaker layout and locations. How close to the exact location will depend partially on how well those speakers image.
That said, at the moment Ian is probably right ... most of the time it’s just an overall effect, the exact placement does not matter. But the power of Atmos is when is does matter and I suspect as time goes on it will matter more and more as engineers embrace this format. Ya, I don't know what the future of Atmos mixes holds. Regardless, I'd be shocked if I could tell much of a difference between an in-ceiling and in-wall in the ceiling when it comes to Atmos. Especially with no a/b test. At this point I am thinking, from an atmos perspective, given my 8ft ceiling height (which is on the low end), the amiable tweeter is going to be of more benefit to me than a speaker that has the driver slightly in front of the plane. Of course, I could be way off on that. Either way I am confident things will sound just peachy with m3 in-ceilings. 
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Yah, there seems to be some interpretation issues with the electrical inspector (think he pushing for a "real electrician" to do my in-wall network and speaker wiring ... ). I'm sure you don't get that up north! I guess the idea of speaker wiring being "low voltage" starts to get a bit wobbly when each of your power amplifiers has its own dedicated 20A power outlet.
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