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Mojo ,
OK Have not had much time to give to listen to them for long.I did move the QS8s forward 3ft. Im thinking of moving the QS10s for side duty and QS8s in the back any thoughts on this? How much improvement do you feel a preprocessor would help Vs my Yamaha RX850A ? I see you are trading in all you gear.

RJ

I have never been able to get rear speakers to do anything for me. I've tried all kinds of speakers and types. One was 13 feet away and the other 11 feet. As you know, when I went from side QS8 to QS10, the difference was astonishing. Then when I powered the QS10 from an ADA-1000, that was another step up when I listened closer to reference levels.

As for your Yammie vs. a prepro, if your room is acoustically "good", then you may not hear a significant difference. I'm willing to bet though you have a low frequency-challenged room like the rest of us. When I got my Onk with Audyssey XT32, it was a huge upgrade. If you get a prepro with XT32, ARC or Dirac, you'll be in for a hell of a surprise. I hear ARC is much better than XT32. Your YPAO calibration is frankly at the bottom of the technical barrel.

You need to consider the bigger picture with this decision though. Do you have enough power and how can you be sure? If not, maybe you can get a Denon with XT32 for a relatively low price and think about getting amplification. If you have enough power, maybe put the money towards a better processor with ARC or Dirac.

There's another thing to consider though. When I went from v2 to v4, I found Audyssey made less of a difference. I still like it better with Audyssey engaged but it taught me that a more refined speaker plays nicer with the room. So maybe the active LFRs won't need EQ at all. So there's that but I know that doesn't make the decision easier for you.

Regarding power, I used to think I had plenty with my Onk because when I turned it up, it fatigued me and hurt my ears. What was doing the fatiguing though was not the volume but the distortion. The immense envelopment and emotion I get now with the ADAs is incredible.

Now that I wrote all of this, I seem to recall you have at least one ADA so you might have enough power.

Mojo,

I have the ADA 1500 3 channel powering the M100s and the VP180. I was thinking of the Marantz 8802A It is to bad everyone is far away. I am not as well versed in this type of audio . I am more than capable ion setting it up. I guess if it sounds good to me and my wife its all good. I do know if I buy a pre pro I will need another amp. ADA 1000 ok to run 4-6 speakers ? My Yamaha set all the front and QS10s to large I set them to small.
Question cross over settings. for all me speakers ? I will look later to see were they are set.
RJ

Mojo
I was thinking of a Parasound halo 5 preamp it has a home theatre bypass. Problem no were to hook kit up the ADA has take the only spot for a serrate amp.

RJ

Hang on. Before we work on solutions, let's first figure out what the problem is.

Set all your cross-overs to 80. It will be easier on your Yammie.

How far do you and the missus sit from the fronts and sides? And what is the length, width and height of your room?

Ok,
Room is 17' x 18' ceiling 7'.5".
Fonts are 11' from listening position
Backs are 30" above our head 6' apart (QS8s) just switched them around
Middle QS10s - 58" off floor 8' from from listening position.
I was just listening too the surrounds from The Yammie ugg not so good very flat tinny.
All speakers are set at 80hz now. subs does not show .Back of sub is set at max 150hz. What do you set the sub phase at?

RJ

I just set up all distances manually YPAO measurements are off. I measured and input the distances, Set all to 80htz.
RJ

You need to run YPAO so it can set the levels. Unless you do that manually with an SPL meter. You can always check and adjust distances later.

Not sure why the surrounds are tinny. Did they sound tinny with the QS8?

The sub phase is very location-dependent. There's a manual procedure to optimally set phase. You need an SPL meter and an 80Hz test tone. You play the tone on the M100 only, note the reading and then play just the sub. Adjust the phase so the sub reads the same as the M100. That's it.

Your 1500-3 is over-kill for your setup. You really need nothing more than a 1000-3 because your fronts are quite sensitive.

I would not get the Parasound in your case. I would get a receiver like an Anthem. It incorporates amplification that you can use for the surrounds. Most awesome is the ARC EQ built into the Anthem. You also get a high quality microphone unlike your Yammie. You run those measurements RJ, and I think all Anthem owners on here will tell you that it's gonna sound like a Sorcerer worked some magic on your set-up.

There may be other, similar options to the Anthem that I am not aware of. I know though Anthem owners are very happy. And they are Canucks to boot!

You may want to think about getting a 1000-4 for your surrounds at some later stage but I really dont think you'll need it with the Anthem for your room size and speaker distances.

And you don't need the Marantz. Just replace the Yammie with the Anthem.

BTW, that Yammie is powerful enough for your surrounds. I suggested the Anthem because of the ARC EQ which I think will clean up the sound immensely and put your system on an entirely different level.