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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432545 06/13/19 07:17 PM
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I didn’t label them, but there are four in-ceiling M3’s n the ceiling. Wouldn’t it then make more sense to make the sides on-wall M3’s to match.? The rears would just be restricted to M2 on-walls because of space restraints.


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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432547 06/13/19 07:41 PM
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You could do that too. My thinking is that you'd be more likely to have situations in movies where sound pans from rear to side than side to top. I could be splitting hairs at this point though.


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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432559 06/15/19 12:14 AM
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You have to use the scientific method here, mmmmk? Make a hypothesis, test it and if your hypothesis is correct, you're good to go. If not, buy more speakers, drill more holes and test some more. Keep doing that until satisfied. You'll sleep better at night knowing you followed the scientific method.


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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432560 06/15/19 06:21 AM
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Says the man who's nearly run out of room in his signature.. lol...



Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432565 06/15/19 12:42 PM
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I did, I did run out of room. laugh

For me, it wasn't a case of not being satisfied with the M5s but an insane case of curiosity. I am still very curious about M22v4.


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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
Mojo #432567 06/15/19 03:22 PM
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Mojo ... Seams like you need to take off a week and head up to Dwight. Once there, barricade your self in their listening room and refuse to leave till you have evaluated every speaker they make ...

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I almost went with the M22 originally and still wonder about them myself.



Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
rrlev #432571 06/15/19 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By rrlev
Mojo ... Seams like you need to take off a week and head up to Dwight. Once there, barricade your self in their listening room and refuse to leave till you have evaluated every speaker they make ...

Hah... I bet Ian and Andrew think about going to Mojo's for listening sessions since he has a wider range of Axiom speakers readily available.

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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432572 06/15/19 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By gmpirate
Here's the room(s) with the pending setup.

I would be tempted to put the mains closer to the TV, ie inside the windows rather than outside. That would also make it easier to position them far enough out that the front edge of the speaker is not behind the front edge of the cabinet/bench below.

Two main reasons for suggesting this:

- putting the M5's in the corners means they are going to be >20 feet apart at a 10-12 foot listening distance... definitely too wide for a stereo rig but maybe the center channel would fill the "hole", not sure

- M5HP's have a small bass bump - adding more reinforcement from corner location might make the room hard to tune... I would keep those corners free for your hypothetical future bass traps smile

EDIT - now I get it... the black circles are the ceiling mounted M3's, right ? Nice...

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Re: Which center for large room paired with M5HP's?
gmpirate #432576 06/15/19 09:04 PM
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Yes, black circles are the celing M3's.

I don't like the fronts being so far apart either, but there is no room to the immediate sides of the tv unless I mounted them to the cabinet or set them on top of the window seats. Unfortunately that does not pass the WFA. I used to have M60's in front of the window seats but that was pretty inconvenient.

You do bring up an interested point, however. I wonder if a VP180 would be a better choice considering the distance between the fronts? Bah, then I'd have to redo the cabinet doors again . . .

Well, if I wait a few months it might seem a trivial expense after distancing myself from this home theatre remodel . . .

All I originally set out to do is remove the M2's from the master bedroom (they were mounted as fronts) and move them to my computer. Install M3 ceilings in there place. Then move the family room AVR to my office and buy a new AVR for the family room.

oh, well . . .


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