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Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432807 07/11/19 08:35 PM
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wschwartz, that's exactly where Axiom is heading. The road there leads to active speakers first. Can you not see Ian's product roadmap in your mind's eye? smile


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Re: LFR1100 Active
wschwartz #432810 07/12/19 11:13 AM
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Hi wschwartz,

The claim from Apple is that "an internal bass-EQ microphone, analyzes and compensates for the effect of the room on the bass response". The problem with this is that the microphone would need to be on you for this to work. Further you would need some sort of known bass sound to be produced by the speaker and received by the microphone to make the correction.


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Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432811 07/12/19 12:48 PM
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The best method for perfect bass that I have found to date is with Audyssey XT-32. Here are the caveats:

1. Make sure you can bypass the main speakers and only have the subwoofers eq'ed. Marantz allows this in both the 7700 and 8800 series pre-amps.

2. Make sure you follow instructions at all listening positions.

3. Make sure you select "bypass mains" in the menu.

4. Double check whether you used dynamic eq or not. Dynamic eq sets a great house curve for movies, and can be fun on AC/DC style rock, but for the most accurate, deep bass, set it to flat.

Doing the above has our EP800's flat to 11 Hz in room (yes we measured it and posted the curve at Home Theater Forum) without the EQ interfering with the performance of the main speakers.

Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432814 07/12/19 06:05 PM
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My Onk's implementation does not allow me to by-pass the mains. I think the answer is a new pre/pro. smile


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Re: LFR1100 Active
craigsub #432815 07/13/19 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted By craigsub
Doing the above has our EP800's flat to 11 Hz in room.


New item added to my bucket list



Re: LFR1100 Active
brwsaw #432818 07/13/19 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By brwsaw
Originally Posted By craigsub
Doing the above has our EP800's flat to 11 Hz in room.


New item added to my bucket list


Yeah, that is definitely impressive!

Re: LFR1100 Active
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Craig
Do you have any treatment to control base?
Any pictures of your room?

Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432820 07/13/19 06:09 PM
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It's 25 x 24 with 8.5 ceiling and not treated.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/under-1000-subwoofer-review-thread.343857/%3famp=1446124323?espv=1


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Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432821 07/13/19 06:19 PM
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This is also good work by Craig. 19 months in, I continue to be very happy with my 800v4.

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/communi...2/#post-4451495


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Re: LFR1100 Active
Ian #432979 08/10/19 06:23 PM
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Spec says the active has a 4 ohm impedance... is that for all 5 inputs? The graph looks like it’s left over from the passive with two curves ... guess front and back (I assume the lower one is for the front ... )

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