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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #433391 09/21/19 03:08 AM
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It was the first marriage for both.

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433392 09/21/19 03:15 AM
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Happy celebrations,

Time is so special in the long run.

Cool seems logical the background would be in the background. just more of a back up in such representation.

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433393 09/21/19 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted By craigsub
It was the first marriage for both.


Oh yeah? That's great but I was asking about the album. laugh


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
brendo #433394 09/21/19 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted By brendo
Cool seems logical the background would be in the background. just more of a back up in such representation.


Background should be be to the sides and behind. Like Craig is sitting in a pool of people with Bob in front.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #433395 09/21/19 03:48 AM
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It's a probability that a unidirectional microphone was used on stage, facing the audience, to place the audience sounds into the soundtrack.

As Mojo suggested, the more accurate would be to have the audience surrounding the listening position, but this typically takes one omnidirectional microphone in the audience, which is a tough task, especially in a large venue.

Mojo - I will check the CD tomorrow to see if it was remastered, but that still would not have an effect on microphone placement.

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craigsub #433396 09/21/19 05:12 AM
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I was thinking more of a guy mixing with either headphones or 2 monitors and trying to put the audience in the back ground.
Very dependant on method of recording/mics. used.

In that aspect I would expect most recordings of them becoming a backup singer. By default almost. Plus the recording artist probably never heard an Omnidirectional Active Loudspeaker, let alone even knowing it now exists.
The blueray concerts could be quite entertaining with the audience as more backup vocals

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brendo #433397 09/21/19 12:41 PM
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Brendo - As the concert was from the 70's, the speaker technology from then was quite different, especially in terms of a sound power experience ala Floyd E. Toole / Axiom (and a host of Harman International speakers - Toole's labs are there).

There were some bi-polar speakers and also other designs intended to create what is now showable in a family of curves. The Bose 901 is the most famous, and there were some other high end companies at the time doing it. There were no measurements behind the concept - merely drivers pointing in different directions.

What's remarkable is this: I have heard Live Bullet a bazillion times. I think we wore out 3 LPs my freshman year in college. The audience noises were always noticeable, but the Active 1100's make it clear how the audience was recorded.

Now I am looking forward to playing The Wall in its entirety - but this HAS to have an EP800 in the mix. laugh

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Hmmm...I've listened to the first track and plan to listen to more tracks. I can't say it's a great recording but perhaps better than a lot of other recordings of that genre. On that first track, the audience mostly collapses to the left and right M100s. A couple of times I heard the audience behind the M100s and to the inside. On the M5, the audience is behind the speakers and pushed "back". The M100s reveal more detail.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #433412 09/22/19 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Blair, we need some.


I'm really happy mith my setup. Might get some time tonight...



Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433413 09/22/19 04:26 AM
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Yeah, I'm happy too. But we could be happier. laugh


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