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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #433429 09/23/19 01:31 AM
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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433430 09/23/19 03:49 AM
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I was on the facebook axiom enthusiast page when my antenna went up.
There was this guy, Mr Stevens, who claimed to be a A-LFR purchaser. A fifth buyer I never heard of ... but wait … those speakers look suspiciously familiar … Mr. Chase you had me going there for a minute …

This got me thinking about who would be likely to be an early adopter in A-LFR market. Given the cost of the A-LFR (including 10 channels of amplification), one would need to trust that Axiom was not just spewing marketing hype. Right now the A-LFR market is us.

At least until some “in the know” reviewer comes out with the thumbs up to give others the warm and fuzzy to purchase.

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433431 09/23/19 04:38 AM
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Right. It all boils down to trust and money.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
rrlev #433433 09/23/19 05:50 AM
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Here is a pair in High Gloss white with the two ADA1500-1 and four ADA1500-2. The comment I got back was:

"I've listened to a whole lot of speakers, but THESE!!!, they nail it"



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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #433434 09/23/19 09:07 AM
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Wow, someone tell me the use case where you need more than one 1500 per speaker in what looks to be a living room. One case I can think of is the saving of using a stack of 1500s and DSPs to hold up your gear instead of a cabinet.


P.S. Must have gotten too high ... think there is an ADA missing from that stack ...

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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
rrlev #433435 09/23/19 01:07 PM
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Rich ... it was my profile picture that got you, right?

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Guys ... let's talk the relative performance of the passive and active LFR-1100'S.

A pair of Passive LFR-1100's and an ADA 1500-4 retails at $8310.

The Active LFR-1100'S and a pair of ADA 1000-5's retail at $8760.

The active package, for about the same money, will outperform the passive package in every way.

Yes, going with a more powerful amp will get a little more headroom, but the Active pacacke for $8760 will have better dynamics with 5 amp channels per speaker and no loss from the crossover.

Now we are looking at a speaker / amp package of incredible value.

When one considers that one can later trade a 1000 for a 1500 relatively easy, I cannot see a reason to get the passive package over the active package.

Put in simple terms, no speaker system currently available can match the overall performance of the $8760 active LFR-1100 package.

Read the professional reviews of the passive 1100's ... the actives are superior.

I do think a mistake is made telling people they "need" $7000 to $22,000 in amplification to get great performance.

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The next step up in performance would be in understanding the three 6.5 inch woofers need the most power.

For this ... take the Actives ... a 1500-2 and a 1000-8 for $10,410 retail. The relative in box efficiencies of the mid range and tweeters make this a solid package, and also an easy upgrade later.

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Yeah. I will be buying them. I have the trust. Now I need to scrape together the money.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Originally Posted By rrlev
Wow, someone tell me the use case where you need more than one 1500 per speaker in what looks to be a living room.


I think those belong to 2x6. Rich, that's one of his eight bathrooms. The other 7 already have 5.2.4.

Did you notice there are 7 ADAs? One is in warm stand-by.


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