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No more M22s?
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I don't see them under bookshelf, on-wall or in-wall any longer. What happened?


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M50, 150 gone too!


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I really like the M50. I felt it had a place with vintage gear and live rooms. It has a very nostalgic sound.


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We wanted to simplify things a bit. In our bookshelf line we started with the M2, that really does need a sub, to the M3 which does not. Then we went to the M22 that needed a sub again and beyond that the M5HP which did not.


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I'm sorry to see them go. I have a pair of M22s which gets rotated into the line-up every once in a while. They are wonderful sounding speakers.


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Mojo #434210 11/08/19 08:18 PM
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I love M22's, I used the onwall versions for all my surrounds when I switched to ATMOS and added the ceiling speakers. Found they sounded better than my Qs8s for surrounds in my new ATMOS setup. I think Nic9k did the same but maybe used m3s onwalls.

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Re: No more M22s?
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Yes I notice that too ...

I was purchasing some M22 but now I'm having issues with my 25+ year old Mirage sub which was going to go there. It's well beyond it's lifetime so I'm not sure if I should take the time to fix it ...

hmmmm keep the M22 which can be driven by a cheap receiver and buy a new sub (or fix the Mirage). Get new M5's which might require a better receiver to be driven alone? or buy M5's, a new sub, and a better receiver/amp?

Problem is it's a square room, the setup is off center (for the TV), and no one will be listening critically (only used for the TV, background music, and maybe parties) ... a dilemma for sure.

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The minimum a listener needs for 2-channel is the M5. For 2.1, the M2 may actually be a better bet because the M5 has a bass bump that may make integration into some rooms a bit tough.

The M2 is really an M5 without a woofer so with a sub, I'd expect it to sound close to an M5. I say close because the M5 has a lower crossover to the tweeter and that may make the M5 highs slightly more dispersive.

I certainly won't miss the 150 although I know that slimmer profile was the only thing that worked for some applications.

As for the M50, I'm willing to bet an M2 with a sub will fit the same needs.


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Which Mirage sub, Rich? My buddy has one that he picked up for $200 new and I have to say, it's a good one for his 12x15x8 space.


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Randy and Phil, this announcement must have to do with low volumes for all those models and with justification along the lines I presented in a previous post. During tonight's dinner, I will be toasting the demise of the 150 and the rise of the 160. smile


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