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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #434603 12/02/19 04:15 PM
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Mojo ... who has the furnace filters as wall art? I think it's you, and you were making a statement with them. laugh

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #434604 12/02/19 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By craigsub

What would I change? I would love a version of these speakers in a large enough cabinet to handle triples of the 8 inch woofers used in the big Brystons. Tune it to about 28 Hz.

Craig, James Tanner had these in use at a recent Toronto audio show - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=3&theater

The sound was incredible!

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #434605 12/02/19 08:18 PM
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I am curious how the imaging and soundstage of those "pseudo line arrays" was.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #434820 12/18/19 01:36 PM
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Time for another update. Spin back to January, 2004 - it was our first subwoofer shootout between an SVS PB-2 plua (dual 12's) and a pair of Hsu VTF-3 Mark II's (single 12 each).

Open Range - a terrific western with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner - was released on DVD. It became an instant classic for the subwoofer deep gunfight scene at the end. Pistols were all mid bass, then the big scatter guns would HIT your chest.

We did it last night with just the Actives in 2.0 mode - no subs. WOW !!

From the opening scene with the immersive lightning storm to the gunfight, it was an outstanding performance. The scatter guns PUNCHED you (I later measured the frequency - the scatter guns centered in the 35-40 Hz range.)

More than that, though, was the attention to detail of these speakers. Off scene cues like a horse riding in had you hearing the horse off to one side before seeing said horse.

Soft wind right before the battle scenes was clearly audible, adding to the suspense.

ZERO negative issues, LOTS of fun!

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #434822 12/18/19 06:34 PM
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Oh good. My 5.3 set-up may end up being 2.0. smile


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
craigsub #434915 12/28/19 03:28 AM
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We did some back and forth between live acoustic guitar and the same guitar through the Actives, using a Shure microphone.

The Actives do an astonishing job presenting both the guitar and realism in space along with bringing the subtle deep bass inherent in every acoustic guitar body.

This is where accuracy REALLY shines.

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But which is better? Live or recorded?

I've been to a few live performances the last couple of weeks and my buds and I agree they totally sucked acoustically compared to my systems. They were all an awful blob of sound with no discernible depth, width or images. These performances included acoustic and amped.


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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
Mojo #434927 12/28/19 10:23 PM
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Mojo - We use a digital recorder to have access to replay the live track as often as we want. This isn't listening to music casually. The Actives do a tremendous job placing the guitar front and center, with lots of detail. Even the subtle bass one hears when the performer's hand hits the guitar comes through.

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craigsub #434929 12/28/19 10:44 PM
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What kind of details do the actives give you guys if you use a lousy recorded C.D.?
I have plenty that I can no longer listen to without headphones as my M80s rip them apart.

Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
brendo #434930 12/29/19 12:08 AM
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Brendo - In one of the previous posts (and months ago), I made the point that these speakers are so revealing that they will have you reviewing the quality of the recording instead of the speakers.

You also make a great point about the Axiom line. 12 years ago, I did a blind test over an entire winter between the M80's of that era, some Paradigm Studio 100's, Onix Ref 3's and Energy's top of the line towers. The Axioms were about $1000 per pair back then, the other speakers all between $2000 and $3500.

In blind testing, the M80's were the most revealing and had the widest, deepest sound stage.

It's just hard to describe the additional detail that the actives bring over "regular" speakers.

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