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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
minorc #434661 12/04/19 03:58 PM
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I follow the same experience with my twin 350s up front and 600 in the back corner. I still would like to update to twin 500s at some point but can't justify it right now... $$$$$


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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
minorc #434662 12/04/19 06:02 PM
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Randy, like you my larger sub (800) is in the back corner and the smaller subs (twin 500s) are up front. It worked out well with regard to time alignment.


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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
minorc #434663 12/04/19 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By minorc
Hey everyone,

Probably going to catch some biased answers in here but maybe not.
My HT setup consists of:

Axiom M80 v3's fronts
Axiom VP180 v4 center
Axiom QS8 v4 surrounds
Velodyne DPS12 sub
Pioneer Elite SC-LX701

Due to an insurance mishap I have the opportunity to upgrade my subwoofer, was flirting with the idea of ordering an EP500 with the sale that's currently on.

Question is, is it a big difference from what I already have or am I just paying money to have another Cherry wood speaker in the house? The velodyne is nice but I find it to be harsh and boomy at times

Thanks in advance


Sorry Minorc, I have been away from the forum. I had that exact velodyne sub before moving to Axiom speakers. To be blunt, I upgraded to the EP350 first and that was miles better than the boomy Velodyne. I have since upgraded to an EP500 and that is even better. My budget has been focused on other home renos at the moment but my next upgrade is a second EP500 . Lucky for me, I cottage not too far from Axiom and make a trip out of picking up my gear smile

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minorc #434664 12/04/19 07:57 PM
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Well, at about 9pm last night I pulled the trigger on the EP500 after discussing future HT plans with the wife. Will get a second EP500 at a later date.

Thanks for the replies fellas, looking at those signatures I'm seeing some legendary level HT setups.


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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
minorc #434665 12/04/19 08:40 PM
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laugh

I'd love to know what you think after hearing them.


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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
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Originally Posted By TDIPablo
To be blunt, I upgraded to the EP350 first and that was miles better than the boomy Velodyne. I have since upgraded to an EP500 and that is even better.


Oh good. It looks like I'd have made the right call against the Velodyne and lived to tell about it.

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Mojo #434673 12/05/19 01:45 AM
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Nick, I have found the addition of two 500s to the existing 800 gave me more than spatially smooth bass. It unmasked bass details and three dimensionality that either did not exist or was only hinted at with the 800.


That is what I said. With a single sub, regardless of the size, you will end up with peaks and nulls. More subs evens out the effect across more room nodes. More subs and smoother response across more area will end up giving greater detail than a single sub.

So what you and I are describing are the same even if described differently. The overall statement here is that more subs = better sound across more seats.


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minorc #434674 12/05/19 03:04 AM
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I see. That does make sense. Thanks.


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minorc #434685 12/06/19 11:15 PM
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SVS is currently running a closeout special on their PB12-NSD. It's $499 shipped, 5 year warranty and 45 day in home trial period. It goes down to 18Hz +/-3db. 400W continuous, 800W peak. It's gotten stellar reviews over they years. I ordered one for my bar area to complement the M5HPs. I'll be receiving it this week and will try it out on Friday.


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Re: Subwoofer - Upgrade?
minorc #434686 12/06/19 11:42 PM
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One heck of a deal. That will work very well with your M5s. Thanks, Steve.


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