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Subwoofer - Upgrade?
#434624 12/03/19 06:30 PM
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Hey everyone,

Probably going to catch some biased answers in here but maybe not.
My HT setup consists of:

Axiom M80 v3's fronts
Axiom VP180 v4 center
Axiom QS8 v4 surrounds
Velodyne DPS12 sub
Pioneer Elite SC-LX701

Due to an insurance mishap I have the opportunity to upgrade my subwoofer, was flirting with the idea of ordering an EP500 with the sale that's currently on.

Question is, is it a big difference from what I already have or am I just paying money to have another Cherry wood speaker in the house? The velodyne is nice but I find it to be harsh and boomy at times

Thanks in advance


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minorc #434625 12/03/19 06:49 PM
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There is no boom in the Axiom sealed subs. They also have a phase control for better integration. There is no port noise because there's no port. THD is practically negligible. How big is your space in cubic feet?


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minorc #434626 12/03/19 06:57 PM
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Thanks Mojo,

I'm not home to give 100% accurate measurement but this will be close.

25' long
12' wide
10' ceiling

So approx 3000 cubic feet


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minorc #434627 12/03/19 07:01 PM
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I have 4,200 ft^3. I thought the 800v4 was real good...and it is. But the 800v4 with two 500v4 is so much better. smile

The best advice I can give you is if you want smooth bass throughout your room, go multiples. If all you care about is your main listening position, one is just fine.


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minorc #434628 12/03/19 07:04 PM
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EP500 v4 vs a 15 year old velodyne dps12 is a considerable upgrade then?


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minorc #434629 12/03/19 07:05 PM
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Here's my review of the 800. It's called The Might from Dwight:

https://www.axiomaudio.com/reviews/index/list/product/64/

Ian has tuned the 600 to reach down as low as the 800 but it won't go as loud. The specs page does not reflect this for the 600 I don't think. Ian uses 600s in his set-up.


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minorc #434630 12/03/19 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By minorc
EP500 v4 vs a 15 year old velodyne dps12 is a considerable upgrade then?


I can't definitively answer that because I have not heard the Velodyne but if I had a gun to my head and was asked to choose, I would take the 500v4. It's sealed, no farting noises, no harmonic distortion. Just real nice, transparent, room-filling bass.


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minorc #434631 12/03/19 07:12 PM
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Lastly, the 500 vs the 600...

Is it THAT much better?


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minorc #434632 12/03/19 07:13 PM
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Mainly for gaming and movies


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minorc #434633 12/03/19 07:16 PM
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The 600 will reach 6Hz lower than the 500. It will not go louder than the 500. If you want to feel infrasonics in movies, or listen to pipe organ, go 600. Otherwise, the 500 will reach down to 18Hz which will give you a nice vibe. You will not be able to hear that. Depending on how old you are, you may not even be able to hear 20Hz.

All Axiom EP (sealed) subs have the same sound: smooth, deep, tight, fast, transparent, undistorted bass that doesn't draw attention to itself but rather blends with the rest of the material no matter how much the volume is turned up.

These subs also have a "boost" mode which allows you to turn up the mid-bass if you so wish.


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