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Re: AVR specs explained - need more power?
minorc #434774 12/16/19 08:14 PM
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How have you established that you need more power? Do you have the soundstage I described? You should be able to see distinct images on that stage even at low volumes. If not, your problem isn't power but something else.


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I have tried a few different things, 2.1 -5.1, wile 2.1 sounds very good and clear I feel that the 5.1 things are not as impressive... I'm more or less interested If i can even notice a difference with additional power


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You have QS8s. My QS8v2 were total crap compared to the OhSoHoly QS10HPs I have now.

And you don't have a center?


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minorc #434777 12/16/19 08:26 PM
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i have v4 qs8's and v4 vp180


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Sorry, I missed that about the 180 in your signature.

I have not heard the QS8v4 so I cannot say. However, given what I have heard of the rest of the v4 line, I would not bet against the QS8v4.

I suspect your receiver. Not that it doesn't have enough power. Rather, its channel steering and rendering of details (accuracy) is not up to your standard.


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minorc #434779 12/16/19 08:38 PM
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I notice you're no stranger to ADA amps, have you auditioned any other brands in similar price points?

Emotiva, Anthem, Rotel.. etc

I imagine the ADA's pair well with Axiom speakers


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I have listened to many different speakers. I cannot say I have listened to any other amps. Receivers certainly and I can tell you there are audible differences between them even in two channel. Receiver sound processing capability varies from one manufacturer to another and even between models. My Onkyo TX-NR818 was an incredible upgrade for my v2. Unfortunately for most it has a bad rap due to HDMI board problems which were fixed on mine and they re-capped and gave me a new transformer to boot. smile


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Minorc, I have a suggestion. Buy one of these and see how the sound changes. If you don't like it, take it back.

https://m.visions.ca/#/home-productdetail?productId=34921&sku=STRDN1080


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The ADA amps. will give you very similar power rating for a fair bit cheaper. All of us with them love them. If anything it probably sounds similar to the Anthems you've mentioned and still cost you a fair bit less. But it will be more similar to a Bryston in reality since they have teamed up 5 or 6 years ago.
In theory "proper designed amps. shouldn't sound different within their ranges"

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Did Axiom collaborate with Bryston for their Amp line? Thought it was only for the model T speaker


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