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I currently have M5HP in-walls on either side of my wall-mounted 75" TV. I'm debating swapping the TV for an 85", which would just fit between the two M5's. I slid the existing TV over to simulate how an 85" would sit near the M5. The face of the TV is 3.5" from the wall plane. Would having the TV so close to the M5's hamper their ability to produce the great sound that I enjoy from them today?


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It would add a reflection point to the speaker. Why dont you test it with a couple of pieces of 2x4 placed against the wall. It would give you about the same profile at the TV will.

Not a bad idea, thanks!

It won't audibly affect the Listening Window Curve but it will affect the Early Reflections Curve. Your image width, stability and timber may all be audibly affected. It would be interesting to see graphs after you put the 2x4s in that Matt suggested.

I put the question to Ian as well, and 'less than ideal' is what he said. Looking like I may need to swap for on-walls (or bookshelves if I really want to test WAF).

If you do bookshelves, do not move them into the room. You will hear a deep soundstage the likes of you have never before witnessed as if the M5s are projecting images to the back. You will kick yourself when you have to butt them up against your front wall.

Does putting them on full metal brackets count as butting them up against the wall? That's really the only spot I have to put them.

FMBs are the same as butting them up. To create what I described, the backs have to be at least 3 feet away.

Like this. Click on the image.

This is 2 feet at my friend's. I also moved her couch into the room (not shown). She can't ever go back to butting them up against the wall.

Get on-walls with an FMB mount and terminal posts to connect your speaker wires to. The FMBs will allow you to clear the TV. The on-walls will also play nicer with your room when it comes to bass. Just trust me and don't experiment with moving them into the room because you will be totally let down when you have to wall-mount them.

Argh, the bookshelves look so good on stands! I need more space!

On-wall with FMB sounds like the way to go (Ian had the same recommendation). The website specs list them as "Enclosure: Reflex/Vortex". Do on-walls have a reflex port on the bottom?

Yes, they do have a port on the bottom. I am getting on-wall and bookshelf M2s and plan to run both in the same rooms to see what the audible difference is between them.

Yes, they do look great on stands. They look small in that large room of mine but sound PERFECT! I blind-fold listeners and after their listening session, they look around the room to locate the large speakers. Of course it's just M5s which they refuse to believe until I play them again and they go up to them to touch their drivers.

Yup. Most of us need new spaces. Mine isn't ideal either.

Interesting! Yeah, M5's probably blow most towers out of the water.

They can't touch the M100s for dynamics and fidelity even when fed gobs of power. To my ears though, the M5s are more refined for soundstage and imaging. The actives are everything the M100 and M5 is scaled up by at least an order of magnitude.

I expect the active M5s to be better than the M100 because they will be just as sensitive, more accurate, with better imaging and soundstage and easier room integration.

Active M5's are a thing?

When I said towers, I meant non-Axioms

They are. I'm not letting out any secrets. Ian has posted at least once that they will be available for near-field monitor applications which I suppose is for recording studios. They will have the same FOC as the passives but of course with higher accuracy. The listening window and sound power curves wont be like the active LFRs though due to the fact they won't be "omni-directional".

Work on Ian to get us on-wall LFRs.

I wouldn't want to be the one writing the DSP code for those...

"C'mon, it's just like a normal LFR except the front and back drivers are both on the front and there are no sides".

There are sides.