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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435435 01/23/20 04:49 PM
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Phil, it appears you've toed in your actives. Mine are about a foot away from the front wall and I had to do the same to broaden the soundstage. I have mine set to FAR2. I really wonder if those rears wouldn't benefit from a greater angle. I'll know better when I move them downstairs where I can get 3 feet away from the wall.


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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
Mojo #435436 01/23/20 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Phil, it appears you've toed in your actives. Mine are about a foot away from the front wall and I had to do the same to broaden the soundstage. I have mine set to FAR2. I really wonder if those rears wouldn't benefit from a greater angle. I'll know better when I move them downstairs where I can get 3 feet away from the wall.


You are going to love what moving them 3 feet from the walls will do - mine are also 2 feet in from the sidewalls, and the widest, deepest soundstage there is with no toe in.

That's our room, though - it will be fun as you and Phil experiment with these small tweaks in your own rooms.

Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435437 01/23/20 05:33 PM
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They will be up to 12 feet apart, their backs up to 3 feet away from the front wall, 5 feet away from the left side and 2 feet away from the right. I may have to twiddle with BGC to dial them in. We'll see if lack of analog BGC ends up being a limitation.


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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435831 02/27/20 06:39 AM
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Ian is teasing me with an "opportunity" to move to these Actives.

I love my current suite of Axiom speakers, and already have a few more heading my way for an Atmos upgrade. Swapping my beloved M80's out with 1100 actives was nowhere in my mind for an upgrade. But now I'm pondering this possibility, a little.... Regardless, I won't be separated from the M80's. They scratch an itch. I guess I need a bigger house.

I have the VP160 for the center, and again - I love it. Plus, all my speakers are real wood walnut, and I like the way they look. If I get some 1100's, I'll just have to get the damn things in Piano finished Rosewood..... grrrrr....

Questions I have....

Will the actives play nice with my 160 center?

How much "breathing room do these actives really need? The M80's are already intruding into a small space.

I have two, 5 channel, 200 WPC amps with ice modules. I use an Anthem MRX 1120 for a pre-amp. Can I, or maybe - should I, use these Ice based amps for the actives, or should I just get some Axiom amps?

I really can't believe I'm thinking about this...

Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435837 02/27/20 05:09 PM
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I moved the actives into the main room from the living room a couple of weeks ago. The 160 works very well with them.

As for breathing room, I can't say yet. When I had them in the living room, I was getting a nice, deep soundstage with them 8" from the wall. I suspect the bow window between them really helped. In the basement, I have a lot more room to play with. I'm not satisfied with their positioning in that room. My frame of reference in that room is stand-mounted M5s.

What is the make and model of the ICE-based amp?

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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435838 02/27/20 07:08 PM
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Mine are 8' apart and 2' from the wall, slight toe in. Haven't had the chance to dial them in for music and determine whether toe-in helps.

They are great!!!!

What's the FAR2? Do I need to get a flash light and put on my glasses?


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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435840 02/27/20 07:19 PM
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FAR2 increases the output to the rear drivers by 3dB relative to the front. FAR1 increases by 1.5dB.

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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435842 02/28/20 02:08 AM
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Thank you Mr. Mojo! Where do I find this diddly adjuster?


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Re: LFR1100 System Is Magnificent!
2x6spds #435843 02/28/20 02:16 AM
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As you're looking at the front of the DSP, reach behind from the left side with your left hand. It's the first knob on your left. Left all the way = Far 2, Right all the way = Near 2.


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