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EP125 or EP175
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I'm thinking of EP125v4 or EP175v4 for my 20x12x8 living room for use with M2OW. 2-channel music only down to 28Hz.

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Re: EP125 or EP175
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Based on the last time I had looked at specs I was thinking "duh, EP175" but it appears that the latest versions of the subs go deeper than they used to and that the main difference is more SPL than frequency response.

Given the room size I guess I would still lean towards EP175 though.


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John, thanks. I plan on duals - one for each channel. I use the pre-outs from my Pioneer to drive each of my current $100, sloppy-sounding subs.

The entire line of ported subs was re-worked by Andrew. I have never heard one but I've been around long enough to know the legacy designs left a lot to be desired. The new ones reach lower, suffer less distortion, have more power and are more reliable. I think they are finally what they ought to have been from the start.

I need subs that are musical, integrate well with the M2OW, have the finish I want and are small enough for my living room. I'm leaning with giving dual 125s a spin. I suspect they'll sound as musical as the sealed subs but with less reach and output.


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I'm going dual 125s. Those will easily reach down to 28Hz and ought to give me great mid-bass with room gain to boot.

Now I gotta stew for 2 months on what kind of wood and finish I want. I should get a sample of woods from Axiom.

Damn, Axiom makes nice, awesome-sounding gear!


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Re: EP125 or EP175
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Sounds good. For movies I would still argue for "one big" rather than "two small" but for music a pair of EP125's seems promising, and you were pretty clear that this was going to be a music system.


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Indeed, music only in 2.2. I was thinking of dual 500s but I really don't need that reach and power. Plus I really want to listen to the least expensive Axiom sub and see what Andrew ended up doing with it. I listened to Axiom's least expensive speakers and ended up loving them as much as the actives.


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Mojo....what are the least expensive speakers you enjoy so much?


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M2 on-walls. In my 1900 cu. ft. living room, they are the most satisfying speaker I've ever had. I've tried all the Axioms I've ever owned in my living room.

My review:

My living room walnut M2OW continue to offer me endless entertainment in my bungalow. No matter where I am in my 1100 sq. ft. space, all I hear is clear, undistorted music. When in my main listening position, it is still hard for me and my guests to believe the wall-to-wall soundstage, which extends out into my yard, comes from small, wall-mounted speakers that completely disappear acoustically while rendering accurate images with space between them. Whether you get the on-walls or bookshelves, you'll be rewarded with one of Axiom's little known secrets - M2s mated with sealed subs are all most listeners need for movies and music.


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Re: EP125 or EP175
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Following!! I’d love to hear what you think of that setup with dual 125.

Maybe dual 175 for my space...... to augment my m60s, you got me thinking. ( I’m about 3000cubed in the listening space but open to 4800 all in). I know you’ve said dual sealed 500s in the past but that’s not realistic $$$ right now. Plus I’ve got other basic upgrades to make. But id love to hear your honest review of those dual 125s.

Now you have to do it...... wink. Just pick a colour and go for it!!!!


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I'm gonna do it but not until the fall. Suspenseful, huh? smile

I'd bet for your musical tastes of Clapton, Paul Simon, etc, dual 125s would work in that room. In both of our cases, we only need down to 28Hz. With room gain, we'd get at least that. Each sub gives us 500 dynamic Watts. 1000 such Watts is nothing to sneer at.

You can cross them at 40 or 60Hz through your Yammy and get some nice support from your 60s.


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