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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438248 09/22/20 05:01 AM
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I noticed that it still said pcm even though I changed it. I tried restarting it to see if it would make a difference but it didn't. If I goto the audio settings it shows that hdmi raw is selected so I can't explain whats going on there.

I attempted to update the box, it says everything is up to date.

There must be something that I'm missing for this to make any sense.

Maybe I'll try a factory reset on the box and see if that works. I'm running out of ideas

Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438249 09/22/20 05:13 AM
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Is there any way to see, via the box's GUI, what the box is outputting as opposed to what it's set to?

A factory reset is a good idea.

What does the Pioneer status read when you change the box to PCM?

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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438250 09/22/20 05:41 AM
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You're not going to like this. The specs for audio read:

Support Music Format: MP3/WMA/AAC/WAV/OGG/AC3/DDP/TRUEHD/HD/FLAC/APE

In there you see AC3. AC3 is Dolby Digital. But Amazon and Netflix stream in EAC3. EAC3 is Dolby Digital+.

Since the box doesn't support EAC3, it can only output stereo rather than multi-channel.


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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438252 09/22/20 06:14 AM
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I looked but couldn't find what it was actually outputting anywhere.

The status always says pcm regardless of what setting I choose.

I tried factory reset, it didn't work.

These are the specs for my box that is working:
MP3/WMA/AAC/WAV/OGG/AC3/DDP/TrueHD/DTS/DTS/HD/FLAC/APE

They are pretty much the same except the working box has dts.

I had another android box that was brand new in the box, it was supposed to be a gift for my brother in law but I hooked that up to try it and it doesn't work either. It has the identical specs to my box that is working.

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I tried hooking up the android box to my other receiver just to 100% rule out my pioneer receiver wasn't somehow preventing the surround on the android box. It's definitely the android box that is the root of the problem.
When I watch a movie in kodi with the working android box you can check the "audio stream" and it says 5.1 or 7.1 channel"
When I check with the android box that isn't working it says "2 channel (default)".
Somehow this android box is stuck in 2 channel audio mode
There are even kodi specific settings for the audio. I changed them to allow 5.1 but it didn't make a difference.
I couldn't get this box to communicate with my Sony receiver so I was forced to hook it up directly to the tv. Don't know if that's a related issue or something all together different.

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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438256 09/22/20 10:50 PM
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I am not surprised.


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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
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I managed to get surround sound when watching movies with kodi. There was a pass-through and stereo up mix setting that I enabled. It sounded a bit off but I think it's still better than the 2 channel sound it was outputting.
There are no audio settings that I can find anywhere in Netflix or Amazon prime unfortunately.
This is really annoying that it's so difficult to get it to work.
I contacted the person I purchased the android box from, maybe they can give me some answers.
Thanks for all of your help

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Jumbo #438269 09/23/20 08:35 PM
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It may be useful for you to know my Amazon Firestick 4K has been working flawlessly over the last year. I have it plugged into my 8 year-old Onkyo. The Onkyo does all the audio and video processing and fires it out to my not-so-smart nor so Sharp TV and my medley of Axioms.


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Re: Why aren't my surrounds and subs working?
Jumbo #438312 09/25/20 01:47 AM
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I've never used or seen a firestick in person. Pretty much everything I read online says an Android box is better than the firestick.
Obviously I will assume that Amazon prime will work without issue, how do kodi and Netflix work on it?

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It all depends on how folks define "better". Perhaps an Android box allows you to find more content. I don't know. I can vouch for the plug and play of the Firestick 4K and also the top notch audio and video processing.

I don't use Kodi. Apparently Kodi can be installed on the Firestick.

Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube and Spotify are top notch.


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