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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439130 10/16/20 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
This is why they sounded so good. Apparently very low and linear extension and high dynamic capability to boot.
Yes, nice response!

For a bookshelf, the dynamics and frequency response was incredible. The owner/designer Vince was a charater and some of his design ideas were a bit out of the norm. These had dual woofers, one behind the other in the cabinet.

I also recall models that had an unusual substance that was for dampening inside. I think there was a model that had both inside and outside fully veneered to ensure cabinet stability!

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Run everything off the .1 channels?


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The speakers you had were veneered inside and I think they also had norez installed which is an acoustic dampening material. These extras don't necessarily make a speaker sound better.

Talking about extras, there's some significant material and labor cost in the Dreamcatchers. The port tube is angled likely to lower the Q of the tuning frequency. There's a film cap that probably costs as much as the tweeter; and it sits on a foamy. Components are hot-glued and hand-soldered. Protective wrap on the wires prevents rubbing noises. The coil is so damned cool I want to wear it around my neck. A bunch of resistors are in parallel because maybe discrete resistors have a lower noise floor than one single resistor or perhaps the bunch is a more exact value than a single. The purple dot on the tweeter smooths the highs according to the sales guy. smile

The sum of all this cool stuff didn't make them sound better than the M2v4 or M3v4 bookshelves. That was frankly very unexpected. I really liked their sound until I heard v4.

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Re: M100s?
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Originally Posted by CanesFanInVA
Run everything off the .1 channels?

I was referring to feeding subs for side speakers off your Denon pre-amp outs. If you ever add amps, you can use RCA splitters. They are cheap and readily available. One side of the splitter can go to the amp and the other to the side sub.


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Re: M100s?
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I think you may want to update your display and receiver before you add more subs Mojo.

PJ time?

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Originally Posted by TrevorM
I think you may want to update your display and receiver before you add more subs Mojo.

PJ time?

Yeah, Mojo! Do a laser projector and rub it in my face.

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That’s a clever idea. Can use the avr amp for heights or sides and use the side preout to feed the subs. Will the avr send the same signal through the speaker outputs and the preamp simultaneously?


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Originally Posted by CanesFanInVA
That’s a clever idea. Can use the avr amp for heights or sides and use the side preout to feed the subs. Will the avr send the same signal through the speaker outputs and the preamp simultaneously?

Both my Onk and Pioneer steer simultaneous signals out of the speaker and pre-amp outputs. My Pioneer is two channel and has pre-outs. I feed the M2OW with the speaker outputs and my dual subs with its pre-outs.


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Re: M100s?
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Originally Posted by CV
Originally Posted by TrevorM
I think you may want to update your display and receiver before you add more subs Mojo.

PJ time?

Yeah, Mojo! Do a laser projector and rub it in my face.

Yeah, I hear you both. I am actually not as nuts about video as I am about audio. I would like to see my Onk blow up so I can get a receiver or pre/pro but I see no other receiver or pre/pro that I yearn for. The Onk is serving my 4.1 channel needs very well.


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Re: M100s?
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Neither was I..... laugh I thought.

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