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Re: EP500 vs EP600
Canesfan27 #438504 10/01/20 09:36 PM
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Note on the couch transducer ... my wife didn’t like it for the very reason I did ... it literally made her jump when I was getting deeper into the movies intensity.

The problem was if she was snuggling with me, her jump made me jump.

Just an FYI if you’re thinking about it.

Re: EP500 vs EP600
Canesfan27 #438505 10/01/20 09:40 PM
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Rich, Canes has 3 times plus the volume you do.

The 800 in my 4200 cu.ft. space adds a depth and fill the twin 500s can't satisfy even for music. But the twin 500s add even more dimensionality and texture to the bass than the 800 alone can.

Four 600s certainly is better than two 800s. I don't think there's an SPL hit from a system perspective.

Canes, you should know that with my actives, all I hear is music and movies at any volume. I dont hear speakers. No other Axiom can do that. Not even the M100.


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Re: EP500 vs EP600
Canesfan27 #438506 10/01/20 10:05 PM
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Well, at some point money becomes an issue ... 4 800, 6 600, 8 500, more? .A mix ... What would you suggest ...

Think it’s an experiment over a long period of time unless $8 to $12k with some heavy discounts fits your budget.

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Canesfan27 #438507 10/01/20 10:13 PM
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Money's no object. Its Cane's miney; not mine. laugh

I originally suggested two EP800 subs flanking each active LFR1100, and four EP800 for the .1 channel - two up front and two behind. But 600s would work just fine now that I have confirmation they go to 12 Hz.

The .1 600s can also be put into "double bass" mode when listening in 2 channel. That's what I do with my 800. During movies though, it just handles the .1.


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Re: EP500 vs EP600
Mojo #438508 10/01/20 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Canes, you should know that with my actives, all I hear is music and movies at any volume. I dont hear speakers. No other Axiom can do that. Not even the M100.

If you set up actives sans subs they may add enough to the low end to stand in for a pair of subs. It’s one of the setups I’m going to try as that way I get all 4 subs working with all the channels instead of 4 with the front and only 2 for the rest.

Re: EP500 vs EP600
Canesfan27 #438510 10/01/20 10:33 PM
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I think our rooms are too big for those puny HP drivers. smile I tried. The flanking 500s fill a big gap.

BTW Rich, I simulated the height and depth of a 600 flanking the inside of an active. I used twin M2s on top of a 500. I placed them flush with the front of the 500 and also flush with the back to simulate the depth. Then I played this tune. At a minute in, two drumsticks come in. With the simulated 600, the sticks lose air. No question about it. They become duller. To make sure I wasn't hearing things, I had my bud move them while I was listening.

What do I do now? I want 600s.

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Just look at those M2 bookshelves though. Damn! Walnut espresso. And they sound absolutely sublime even in my 4200 cu ft space from 12 feet away.


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Re: EP500 vs EP600
Mojo #438511 10/01/20 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
What do I do now? I want 600s.

I’m fairly certain that the LFRs don’t need the 600s off the DSPs. So, I’m going to lay one one it’s side mid front and the others standing upright in the middle of each wall. Sub1 will drive front and rear. Sub2 will drive the sides. So you can do the same ...

P.S. you can also keep the 500s and trade in the 800 for 2 600 ...

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Good thought on the 800 but both drivers are signed by the Axiom Kingpins and I have the gut punch/nad tickler artwork on my linear/boost switch. Plus Ian himself used that same 800 in the chamber to invent the gut punch/nad tickler mode. That is a very unique sub. The only one of it's kind. Every time I go by it, I run my trembling fingers over its plump dust caps.

What do you mean by sub1 will drive front and rear and sub2 the sides?


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Re: EP500 vs EP600
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Mojo - I am beginning to think you are nuts.

I have my single, ported EP600 in my great room. Casual TV watching and mostly music during the day when I'm fussing aroung the house. This room is 26X32, has 10' walls, a loft above with a vaulted ceiling over that. 22' to the ridge peak. The 600 fills the room extremely well, and the volume knob is roughly 50%. I have it crossed at 60, because I have great R/L mains with 8" drivers. The ported 600 just sounds softer, more musical than the non-ported 500's do. The 500's are tighter, more presice, and also less musical to my ears. They sound friggin awesome in my HT though, but I only watch movies in this room.

Re: EP500 vs EP600
Mojo #438514 10/01/20 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
What do you mean by sub1 will drive front and rear and sub2 the sides?
Sub 1 & 2 off the prepro

I’m sure if you ask nicely they will sign your 600s

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