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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439922 11/30/20 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
The on-walls are another one of these big secrets. If prospects knew how good they sounded, they'd go for them over floor-standers. But they have less macho man factor and that's important for some.

I'd like to see active LFROW.

So true. I've now tried every M5HP variant, and OW are my favourite. They sound every bit as good as the bookshelves, and integrate so nicely with a big wall-mounted TV. Macho man factor can be achieved simply by removing the grilles.

If I had a dedicated music listening space that allowed for proper placement, I'd likely opt for traditional bookshelves/floorstanders.


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bman, what differences did you notice between the three variants? I've never used in-walls so I'm particularly interested in what you found different between those and on-walls and bookshelves.


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I haven't spent a ton of time with the on-walls yet, but initial observations are that IW don't sound as full, lacking in midbass, imaging was hampered (probably due to proximity to wall-mounted TV). IW are not ported.

OW and bookshelf are very similar, with the OW rolling off sooner on the low end (and also being easier to tame). ARC Genesis wants to cross both at 80hz. OW might actually sound better than a sub-optimally placed bookshelf.


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Originally Posted by Rebulx
I don't expect the M2 on walls to have any bass, at all. Probably will be crossed over at 90-100hz, maybe higher. I hope they will be excellent additions as the upper presence speakers.

I don't think you'll have any issues with them as presence speakers.

I'd like to contrast the listening window and sound power curves of the M5 vs. the M2. The M2OW are able to maintain the center image wayyyyy off axis. I can't say that about the M5OW.


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Bman, are you saying that the cabinet volume in the bookshelves make no difference? The M5 on walls perform the same?


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bman said the OW roll off sooner on the low end. Hence bookshelves have larger bass 'nads. But sometimes those 'nads don't fit properly in a room. Cutting them off at 80Hz and steering those lows to a sub or five sure helps.


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Gotcha, that makes sense. thanks mojo.


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Yeah dude. We can both relate to 'nads. smile


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Or at least relate to cutting them off.........depends how you read that.

I think I’ll skip joining that club for now.


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I can vouch both the OW and bookshelf M5 models have more than ample 'nads even if excised at 80Hz.


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