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Mixing 4 ohm centre with 8 ohm left and right?
#440054 12/12/20 05:55 PM
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Sorry if this has been asked before in the message board, I just couldn't make the search engine work for me.

I am considering a VP180ow for a centre with a pair of M5HPow for the left and right front, behind an acoustically transparent screen. The 180 is 4 ohm impedance and the M5's are 8 ohm each. Can I do this, mix the impedances? Does the receiver need any special features or setting applied to do this or should i just get an 8 ohm centre?


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No problem mixing, you just need to set your channel levels correctly ...

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Which receiver, how far away will you be sitting and will you be crossing all fronts to a sub?


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Onkyo TX-NR757, 12' away, yes there is a 12" Velodyne sub. thanks for the reply.


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No problem. Cross all fronts to the sub at 80Hz to give the Onk less of a workout. Set the Onk to 8 Ohms and not 6.

Consider the 160OW though. There is nothing wrong with the 180 but the 160 is very good and less expensive.

Check refurb and B stock. You may find them there.


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Or even another M5hp. Save the dough if you can place it behind the screen. No advantage to a horizontal center if you arent forced to place it under/over a screen.

Use your left over cash on a nice universal remote or a 4K bluray player or gaming console. smile Or the new LOTR 4K release.

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Hey Trevor. You should see what I did with an M5 as a centre at my buddy's. It's the most %$cked up thing ever but it sounds so damned good. I'm sure it's the only installation of its kind in the universe.


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I have been considering the M5HPOW for a while. I already have the VP180OW with M60's. The VP180OW is a beast of a centre speaker! What I really want to do is move the M60's to the games room and get the M100's next fall (Black Friday $$).

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Thank you all for the responses, The only reason I am considering the 180 is because there are a couple in the Refurb/B stock stores and the saving is significant. My original intent was three matched M5HPOW for behind the screen. Last night I checked my screens construction and the two centre supports/studs are only 36" apart , the 180 won't fit unless I rebuild the frame!

I guess the horizontal centres are really only for systems that use tall L/R fronts like the M60 or M80 then?


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The horizontal centers are for those who can't fit a regular speaker into their space.

BTW, the M5s are 6 Ohm. Look at the impedance curve (on the M5 bookshelf page). This is of no practical significance to your Onk and the advice I gave you still stands. Axiom specs them as 8 Ohms to avoid a ton of calls from prospects who don't know what an Ohm is and what it means.

Cross them at 80Hz, turn it up, your Onk will be fine. I have the Onkyo 838 and it has a power supply and amplification similar to yours. In 2-channel, driving M5s, it's practically no different than an ADA-1000-2. I know, because I've measured. I freakin' love my Onk and Visions for the deep discount they gave me on it.


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