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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440338 12/29/20 09:48 PM
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It will be interesting. I'm expecting uneven results. I played with that quite a bit which is why I was going to buy a new one sometime in 2021. But at 650$ (after all the rebates), I could not wait any longer, especially not 21 days! I suspect it is not a wood finish (but it is HPv4). My D2v allows for 2 speaker config and switching from one to the other is fast. On my laptop I have ARC files for both sub/no-sub and center/non-center configs. It is just a bit annoying doing the RS232 transfer (and quad measurement as the software is too dumb to allow me to select different speakers to use AFTER the measurement).

One of my issues is that to avoid interfering with the short-throw projector, the center is low (hence I was looking for an inverted cabinet although I suspect flipping it on its back is the same thing or Axiom has gone something extra to point everything upwards. So my conclusions were: Certain loss of clarity with single or dual instructions (for which I use Neo:6). Larger settings or pipe organ (PLIIx) I could not determine if there was an issue big enough for the need to be the deciding factor. So movies and TV won the day and made me look at the VP180 web page very frequently!

When I re-take my measurements, I will do it separate for center/no-center again as I rarely use the sub/no-sub config and can live without it for a while.


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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440339 12/29/20 11:16 PM
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Why do you suspect it's not wood? Is it a refurb?

Edit: Yes it is.

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440345 12/30/20 05:54 PM
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Darn! Just like the QS10, new speaker has been delayed and will only make it home tomorrow. I'm sad. In the meantime, preparing the living room to welcome the old v2, I cleaned up the ol' M80v2 and took a "before" picture. They still look great. Grill is a bit dirty. Not sure if anyone has a trick. Just "shower them" with hot water and leave them to dry?

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aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440348 12/30/20 07:53 PM
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No! They could stain. Compressed air is best if you have one in the garage.

Go from the inside of the grill out.

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440369 12/31/20 04:57 PM
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Wonder if Axiom has any of the old style grills around still. I’d buy a pair if they did. I want some “ charcoal “ instead of black I currently have.

You could try a lint brush maybe ? One of those sticky tape kind maybe.

Edit: don’t use water, you’ll wreck the grill frames. !
I like the finish on your m80s. Glossy! Looks sharp.

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440371 12/31/20 05:33 PM
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Those are 13 years old! Axiom builds well.

While waiting for my new speaker "On vehicule for delivery" (the most beautiful words in the English language), brought my old VP180v2 upstairs... Well, turns out it was a v3! So changes will be less pronounced! So adding a big center in living room does not have a huge impact, but it does make movies seem a bit more "real" and sound more anchored when I move.

My neighboors are not there so for one of the first time I could really listen to things in my living room. It is now (with the M22OW as heights and QS8 surrounds with M80/VP180) a very decent home theater in its own rights! Pipe organ, orchestra, piano or small ensemble all sound very natural. There is no subwoofer in that room and I think adding the VP180v3 helps a little bit with what sounded a bit boomy only recently. New VP180HPv4 should be arriving within the next 2 hours!!!

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
aaaaaaaaaaaaa #440378 12/31/20 08:44 PM
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It's here! It's here!
Confirmed: Vinyl as expected based on the price. Very good condition!
Just finished running ARC (now uploading at 9600bps to D2v which is LONG).
I screen captured both speakers capture by ARC. Will post later as the pictures are local to the laptop currently connected to D2v and microphone. But they looked pretty much exactly the same (not surprisingly as it is more a factor of the room than the speakers themselves).
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Re: Boxing Day Sale
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Comparison is interesting. The new speaker is not as loud as it's predecessor! Hm...
Curve is similar but seemed to have been easier to "correct" and resulting ARC curve matches almost perfectly the "ideal" curve. This is going to be interesting as I suspect the neighbors won't be back until at least tomorrow! BTW, I left it to the 5Khz default

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
EFalardeau #440380 12/31/20 09:01 PM
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Congrats! Fun times!! Those M100's look great too. Looking at your signature you are swimming in Axiom product!

First movie you are gonna watch?

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Re: Boxing Day Sale
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Hey Eric, not sure how you concluded it's not as loud. I am interested to hear if the v4 offers anything more in "emotional impact" over the v3. Congrats and enjoy!


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