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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
bridgman #441639 03/13/21 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bridgman
you need moderately intelligent but well trained subs grin
Didn't know you were into that sort of thing smile
(which I take was the point after all)

Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #442754 06/30/21 05:28 AM
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Damn, the music from my actives sound so damned good. It's like I have all these sound sources within a 180 degree field and DEEP into the front. Damned amazing. I really don't deserve them. Damn!


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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I think it may be time to upgrade my 4.9 system to omnis all around. Trade in the QS10s for LFR660s?


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
Mojo #443410 09/03/21 05:39 AM
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Not sure if that makes sense unless your going for ATMOS / DTS-X.

With only bed speakers the surround processing will assume a non-object format. So, I don’t think the LFRS will improve your experience, over the QS10s, given that you want a diffuse image in those formats.

Now if you are going ATMOS and also adding tops … it’s still an experiment … as I’d postulate that 95% of the time movies are going for diffuse surround and you’d at least want sides and rears to get it. I’m also unsure if you’d get the actives to Image well with the 660s to give you great object placement for the other 5%.

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Mojo #443411 09/03/21 09:32 AM
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4.1 Atmos setup guide. I would strongly suggest adding heights instead. This would be 4.1.2.

https://www.dolby.com/siteassets/ab...kers-setup/4_1_virtual_speaker_setup.pdf

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Sure heights would work depending on the room… certainly easier than putting them in the middle of the ceiling.

In Mojo’s case I think he has a pretty low ceiling and sits fairly far away … so you might not get enough separation vertically from the mains if on wall. (Or even forward ceiling considering his mains are something like 3 feet out from the front wall).

the problem with the dolby ATMOS setup sheets is that they have sheets for everything including two channel … which doesn’t have any surrounds at all. Have no idea what they are thinking other than marketing ATMOS for any setup.

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I think given the pdf Trevor linked and his comments, he is suggesting 2 side bed speakers and 2 side tops. It is these 2 side tops that he refers to as "heights". These heights could be M2s, M3s, M5s or maybe even QS10s.


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Re: Out with the new and in with the newer
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That also makes sense … as long as you can get the vertical separation.

Mojo, you have more than enough speakers to give it a whirl before buying anything …
No guess work needed … you can tell us smile

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Originally Posted by Mojo
I think given the pdf Trevor linked and his comments, he is suggesting 2 side bed speakers and 2 side tops.
The link takes me to a 4.1 sheet … so I didn’t know where Trevor was thinking of putting the heights.

I’ve only seen Dolby suggest heights in front or back … but putting them on the side walls does make a lot of sense if your room is narrow enough (and a much better placement in this case)

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Originally Posted by rrlev
That also makes sense … as long as you can get the vertical separation.

Mojo, you have more than enough speakers to give it a whirl before buying anything …
No guess work needed … you can tell us smile

I don't have a Dolby-capable receiver. I have also munched both forearms so bad from extreme muscular exertion I can't pick up a spoon let alone a speaker. I'm getting friggin' old. I never thought this could happen to me. It's gonna take months to recover.


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