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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
Mojo #441995 04/10/21 05:02 PM
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No thats wrong...its 200wpc with all 5 channels driven simutaneously. But cant find rating when only 2 driven


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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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I just checked out page 3, bottom left corner. 235W/channel, 2 channels driven into 8 Ohms. There's also a 4 Ohm rating.


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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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https://www.audioholics.com/amplifier-reviews/rotel-rmb-1095

"Rotel's 5-channel RMB-1095 is THX Ultra certified and boasts 200 watts into 8-ohms (20Hz-20kHz) with all channels driven. It can drive any speakers rated at 4-ohms or greater and has 116 dBA SNR (more on this later). Weighing in at 75lbs and standing over 9" tall there are no smoke and mirrors to be found here."

https://rotel.com/en-ca/product/rmb-1095

"Rated at 200 watts per channel (all 5 channels driven into 8 ohms, 20 Hz 20 kHz, less than 0.03% THD), the RMB-1095's power supply is built around two 1.2 kVA toroid transformers. "



But i can't find the rating for just 2 channels. Shouldnt it be more when only driving 2?

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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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Dude, damn it! It is more, mmmmk? smile

The bottom left corner of the link I sent you on page 3 reads 235W/channel, 2 channels driven into 8 Ohms and around 280 into 4 Ohms.

So that's 35 more than spec into 8 ohms and 85 more into 4 Ohms. Your M100s are gonna freakin' rock! You're gonna be rockin and a reelin, jumpin to the ceiling. I have the ADA-1000 which is punier than your Rotel and my M100s were shattering my ear drums!


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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
Mojo #441999 04/10/21 06:51 PM
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Everythinf im reading says 330 watts in 4ohm all 5 channels driven.

Wouldn't only 2 be more than 330 in 4ohm?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://manualzz.com/doc/en/1938162/rotel-5-channel-amplifier-rmb-1095-owner-s-manual&ved=2ahUKEwjrkcyOrPTvAhWUrJ4KHXzEAvYQFjAPegQIEhAC&usg=AOvVaw0oW13g07Hl9fi9tQDsM0Nf&cshid=1618080833501


The owners manual. I realize it says din and not rms.

Not too well versed in this

Where im confused is...for example...the axiom amplifiers or emotiva offer almost double the power when only 2 channels driven. Why is the rotel different in this regard...you get only a slight increase?

Would it be beneficial to use the dual inputs in this case?

Use 4 channels of the rotel for left and right and power the center and rears with the denon i plan on getting?


This pic is straight from owners manual

https://ibb.co/W0W8B0w


I realize the stereophile reciew produced less.

Im considering an emotiva monoblock for each speaker perhaps wink

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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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No, no, no! Absolutely no bloody way that can do 330W per channel into 4 Ohms across each of the 5 channels concurrently. No way!

DIN is a rating for a single channel, at 1KHz, at a specified load (4 Ohms in this case) for 10 minutes with no more than 1% THD.

I believe the 235/280 figures in the link I sent you for both channels driven concurrently.

The Emo and Axiom designs are different. They act as more of a true voltage source because they can source more current.

What you call dual inputs won't help.

Don't buy an amp yet. Get the M100s and use the Rotel. Then make a decision on amplification.

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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
Mojo #442002 04/10/21 07:26 PM
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Ok thanks man.

Where im confused...it says it produces 1000 watts total and a reviews had it running 200 w per channel all 5 channels driven @ 8 ohm (with the review you posted coming slightly less with all 5 driven).

Now...if i use dual inputs of m80 or m100 or not (and 4 channels or 2 channels on rotel or not)....shouldn't I in theory, being giving them the ability to EACH pull up to 400 watts @ 8 ohm (if they were calling for it) ? Help me understand why i can divide up the 1000 watts across 5 channels at 200 each continuously....but i cant divide the 1000 watts into 400-500 when only using 2 channels

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Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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Because the outputs are likely voltage\current limited to keep the transistors from eating themselves.

Don't worry. That thing seems ballsy. Should impress with the 100s.

Or, like Koe might say "Haul ass and get chicks." Lol. Liked the song.

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BTW, when I get someone like yourself in for a demo and they are like "No big deal, let see what you got" I play this.... Not really a replay value track, but definitely puts posers on notice. Downright scare people with it.

Then they buy Axioms. Have fun!

Kill Everybody- Skrillex
https://open.spotify.com/track/4XCHizdk3YrzdveEOAGpob?si=49006229ae074e90

Re: Thoughts on a trade up? (Trade in not working on w
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Audioholics never measured it. I don't know where Audioholics got the figure of 200W/channel with all channels driven.

I believe the article I linked. It can produce 165 honest continuous Watts into 8 Ohms with all channels driven, 235W into 2 channels concurrently into 8 Ohms and 280 into 2 channels concurrently at 4 Ohms.

Now, if you cross to a sub, you can probably squeeze out 10 or 15 more Watts.

If you connect two good batteries in parallel in your car, do the headlights get brighter compared to just a single, good 12V battery? No. The lights will just be on longer with two batteries than with one. For brighter lights, you need a higher voltage battery. So if you connect dual channels, the speaker won't get louder. You need an amp with a higher output voltage like the ADA-1500.

I agree with Trevor. You'll have a ballsy system.


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