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Avr issue
#444670 02/12/22 03:56 PM
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So I was putting in my m3 ceiling speakers and then something odd happened. I went to run audyssey and it was telling me my rear M2 were out of phase. I checked the wires and everything is fine, red to red black to black. They won’t play any sound except out of the tweeter but if I barely push on the mid range driver I get sound from it. I’m not sure what’s going on because they had been playing fine before today. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


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Canesfan27 #444671 02/12/22 04:00 PM
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I plugged speakers into the rear inputs and they are playing fine, could something be wrong with the M2s?


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Canesfan27 #444673 02/12/22 04:09 PM
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If you changed the terminals and they work better it sounds like the receiver has a problem.

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Canesfan27 #444674 02/12/22 04:14 PM
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I wouldn’t think the mids blew on both speakers at same time


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Canesfan27 #444675 02/12/22 04:15 PM
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Just moved other speakers to their terminals and they play fine. Doesn’t matter which terminal I plug m2s into they don’t play through the mids

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LFR1100
VP180HP
EP600
M3 In Ceiling x 4
M5OW
M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444676 02/12/22 04:20 PM
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Took one down and hooked it up to 1500 amp and same issue. No sound from mid. I would think it’s a driver issue at this point


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Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444678 02/12/22 04:28 PM
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I had a spare 5 1/4 driver and I swapped it out and it is the driver. That’s crazy that both went out at same time


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Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444679 02/12/22 04:43 PM
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Holy cow. Loose wire connections. Got both working again


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Canesfan27 #444680 02/12/22 04:43 PM
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Loose internal wires


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Canesfan27 #444681 02/12/22 05:00 PM
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The one mid is dead no matter what I do.


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Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444683 02/12/22 05:36 PM
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Where is the looseness?


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Out in the mid or far field
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Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444684 02/12/22 07:08 PM
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It was the woofer. Going to check the soldered connections. One woofer is dead. Not getting any resistance reading from it. The other looks like the wires at the connectors or possibly at the voicecoil are loose.


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VP180HP
EP600
M3 In Ceiling x 4
M5OW
M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444685 02/12/22 08:31 PM
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A blown mid-woofer is great news. Now you can rip it apart and see how it works up close.


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Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444689 02/13/22 12:20 AM
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Spoken like an engineer, Mojo.
I’d bet you accomplish that before you were 10.

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Canesfan27 #444696 02/15/22 01:58 AM
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I’ve taken many speakers apart throughout the years. Used to take apart car speakers in my teenage years


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VP180HP
EP600
M3 In Ceiling x 4
M5OW
M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
Re: Avr issue
Canesfan27 #444699 02/15/22 02:55 AM
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Glad you found the issue, unlikely it was the receiver, good troubleshooting !


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