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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
jrhooper1963 #445011 04/17/22 10:03 PM
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Hobby vs. a tool with a job to do. Horses for courses.

Powered Sudio Monitors. Tons of em sold. Simple. Ubiquitous. Reliable. Same idea.

Re: Computer Speaker Advice
Cork #445012 04/17/22 10:24 PM
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And you get a good headphone amp too if you purchase the right one, which is nice to have on a desktop setup.


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Originally Posted by Cork
At the risk of being a thread crapper, I've never seen the point of going with powered speakers versus getting the equivalent non-powered and a small desktop amp. Well, I can see a few points, it's mildly easier to set-up, the M1 is a smaller footprint, and as Trevor alluded to, in the case of small kids - less to handle. On the flip side, speakers last for 20-30+ years and electronics far less. So all things considered I'd rather be able to swap out an inexpensive amp as opposed to trying to fix a bad powered speaker.

Crapping on threads entertains me greatly. Others derive much pleasure from this activity too.

Any small, desktop amps with a sub out?


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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
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Originally Posted by Kodiak
I can vouch for the M3. It’s no slouch at all. It’s quite spectacular. I’m very impressed with their performance so far in my master bedroom playing from a modest receiver. I also have a pair of m60ti in a larger space and really like those too.

Having listened to M3 now for a few sessions I’m already scheming how to incorporate a pair of m2 into my office space and a pair of m3/m5 on walls in my garage.

Short version: I love the clarity of axiom speakers and detailed sound. I’ll bet a pair of m1 or m2 powered computer speakers with a small sub ( if desired ) would be very good.

Have you compared the M3v4 with your M60ti?


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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
jrhooper1963 #445017 04/18/22 02:17 AM
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i have the M3 computer speakers and they sound fine for the speaker they are. As some have put they are a bit more bright, but are you using them for critical listening to music, or as a more general computer speaker?

I have some serious faults with the Computer Speakers. They put the controls on the back of the speaker. This might be fine for someone who doesn't want to set or change the volume, or is happy with how the computer does volume control for you. But for me with a Mac, the speakers are seen as a DAC and thus don't have any volume control as its assumed by Apple that a DAC doesn't need it. Keep that in mind.

I use them more like Trevor, in they are easy to pull out and put outside when I have some friends over and want to listen to music and have it sound good. (I find a bluetooth portable speaker just doesn't cut it)

I moved for my computer to getting an external USB headphone dac that has it's own volume control. I have a number of no longer used receivers and just bought a set of regular speakers to plug in. As needs changed, or more space and 'WAF' came into play, I have used everything from a small 50watt amp to a 250watt class A-B with Bi-Amp connections that sounded quite sweet but was a source of many arguments... 'turn that racket down...' I have a pair of M3 and M5HP speakers. Sure the M5 do sound better for critical listening, but the M3 speakers give me just as much enjoyment. I will bet the M2 speakers would as well. I just never got them so I don't have any point of reference to say.

I think that you really need to say what you are looking to get out of the setup. What are the limitations or requirements that you are trying to meet? No sense in overkill, but don't sell yourself short or limit yourself for future needs.


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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
Mojo #445022 04/18/22 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TrevorM
Hobby vs. a tool with a job to do. Horses for courses. ... .
Can't argue with that. And that would explain my preference.

Originally Posted by Mojo
Any small, desktop amps with a sub out?
I too a quick look and not as many as I would have expected. When I got am M3 system for my son I went with the Audioengine N22, which does not have a sub out. I saw a reasonably priced LOXJIE A30, which does. Although the sub out is not absolutely required as many subs accept the stereo input and split the LFE out on their own. And for a desktop amp that would be okay with me as I probably wouldn't want to be tweaking crossovers.

Re: Computer Speaker Advice
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Originally Posted by Kodiak
I can vouch for the M3. It’s no slouch at all. It’s quite spectacular. I’m very impressed with their performance so far in my master bedroom playing from a modest receiver. I also have a pair of m60ti in a larger space and really like those too.

Having listened to M3 now for a few sessions I’m already scheming how to incorporate a pair of m2 into my office space and a pair of m3/m5 on walls in my garage.

Short version: I love the clarity of axiom speakers and detailed sound. I’ll bet a pair of m1 or m2 powered computer speakers with a small sub ( if desired ) would be very good.

Have you compared the M3v4 with your M60ti?


Hey Mojo, I’ll comment more over on my other thread so I don’t hijack this one. But I will say this, I now know / think the Axiom Mid woofer is something I will always have, somewhere in some way shape or form in my setups. It’s excellent, the Ti version is all I know but it’s great.

Relating that comment to this thread, computer speakers, I’d pick m3 as a 2.0 music based system or the m2 as a 2.1 or 2.2 system if it was more about dialogue or movies or audio video calls but still wanted some bass for occasional listening sessions. M3 has plenty of bass on its own in a smaller space but if you know and like the axiom mid woofer you just miss it. Or not….Pick either one based on your needs and application. In my house with my options I’d pick passive m2 with desktop mini amp with a quality DAc and headphone out too.

Tyler.

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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
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Yup. Now you understand. smile

P.S. The M2 may offer adequate bass depending on the room. They may even offer better bass that the M3 because their bass is more linear.


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Re: Computer Speaker Advice
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Originally Posted by Slava_Ukraini
i have the M3 computer speakers and they sound fine for the speaker they are.

I have some serious faults with the Computer Speakers. They put the controls on the back of the speaker. This might be fine for someone who doesn't want to set or change the volume, or is happy with how the computer does volume control for you. But for me with a Mac, the speakers are seen as a DAC and thus don't have any volume control as its assumed by Apple that a DAC doesn't need it. Keep that in mind.

I concur with this part of Slava's post.........

I find it very aggravating that the controls are on the rear of the speaker.

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jrhooper1963 #445040 04/18/22 09:01 PM
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Hes not really Slava, OK? That's mattmanhasgonewhoupgradedlfrstoactiveandcamebacktocomplainaboutcomputerspeakers, OK?

I'm totally frustrated with rear controls on gear. I totally get it though because costs are driven up to have front controls, the physical size has to go up and the fronts are not as clean.


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