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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
spiroh #445265 05/06/22 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spiroh
I might be in the market for on wall speakers and I am wondering if Axiom is coming out with anything new or newer revisions?

I just got two of the On wall M5HPs. Only had them a week so far and I love them. They have been great for TV and listening to music. They are very clear even at high volumes.

They do not have as much bass as I thought they would, but still have a satisfying low end. I bet the bookshelf variety has a much deeper bass to them, but I got on walls due to the small space I am in.

I liked them enough I purchased the on wall VP100 in the B stock to go with them as a center channel. Check out the Bstock as there were a few of the M5HPs available. The M5s i got were B stock and I cant find anything wrong with them at all. Beautiful finish.

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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
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Eblack, did you have to use MCACC in your smallish room to tame their bass? Glad they worked out for you. And I see you already bought the centre. smile


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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
Mojo #445267 05/06/22 10:14 PM
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Eblack, did you have to use MCACC in your smallish room to tame their bass? Glad they worked out for you. And I see you already bought the centre. smile

I haven't tried to use the AccuEQ on the Onkyo receiver yet. I was planning on trying that out tomorrow to see what that does to the sound of the speakers. Other than changing the bass settings for the speakers, I haven't changed many settings at all other than doing the initial configuration at start up.

Yeah I'm looking forward to see how the VP100 performs. I really love the sound these speakers put out.

Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
spiroh #445270 05/06/22 11:47 PM
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I don't want to influence you so I won't tell you that AccuEQ should result in tighter bass, more focused imaging, greater midrange detail and an expanded soundstage.


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Mojo #445274 05/07/22 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I don't want to influence you so I won't tell you that AccuEQ should result in tighter bass, more focused imaging, greater midrange detail and an expanded soundstage.

My experience with AccuEQ is that it changes absolutely nothing in my living room, and I hear no difference with it on or off. It could be that I have superb acoustics that doesn't need fixing. I find the volume calibration settings to be spot on and didn't need to tweak it.

It was excruciating getting warranty support for a replacement AccuEQ microphone from a company undergoing bankruptcy, but Microland Canada (the company contracted to do Canadian warranty support) pulled through.


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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
Mojo #445279 05/07/22 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I don't want to influence you so I won't tell you that AccuEQ should result in tighter bass, more focused imaging, greater midrange detail and an expanded soundstage.
I did run the AccuEQ and i am satisfied with the results it came up with. I think it did help a good deal with the bass and they sound real good.

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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
spiroh #445280 05/07/22 08:18 PM
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That's awesome!


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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
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Eblack, given the dimensions of your room, the M5 is likely giving you useful bass down to 28Hz because your room is boosting all frequencies from 56Hz and below. At about 28Hz, the M5s in your room put out about as much energy as they do at 80Hz. And it sounds like AccuEQ is doing a decent job of flattening any peaks across that range which makes the bass less muddy and more enjoyable.

So you're all set for music unless you listen to the pipe organ. But since most of your time is spent on movies, you may be missing any low frequency effects that are in the soundtrack.


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Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
spiroh #445283 05/08/22 03:46 PM
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I gotta see the math on this. Educate me.... Did you pull from modal calculator? Curious.

Re: Anything new coming from Axiom?
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Trevor, there's a good treatise of this at the following link:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/analytical-analysis-room-gain.23211/

The bottom line from all of this is that room gain rises at 7 to 12 dB/octave starting at the frequency where the longest room dimension is a half wavelength.

Incidentally, this is why a 500, 600 or 800 does not work in my living room but a 125 does. The 125 rolls off enough that room gain brings it up to flattish on the low end. The sealed subs gain too much and go boom!

Having said the above, someone whose hearing is bad down low could benefit from the sealed subs. Alternatively, with sub EQ - which I don't have in the living room - the sealed subs may work better than the 125.


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