Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Axiom Subwoofers vs other brands. Need compact.

I have both the 600 and 500. And as we discussed before the 600 actually goes lower then the 800. So, that said, perhaps I just haven’t heard the right material yet (if hearing is the right word as at these frequencies it;s more about feeling)

I’ll propose a EP500 and a buttkicker LFE might the combo to hit it out of the park … after all a good kick in the but might be just the nirvana your looking for.

Appreciate all the feedback everyone. I can get a SVS micro 3000 for about the price of the EP-175 after making a few calls yesterday. I have no idea if I can hear well down to 20 HZ. About 20 years ago, I used to rock 2 15s in the back of my car and loved the low frequencies.

I might pull the trigger on the micro 3000, but now I am wondering if I should get something a little bigger. EP 500 is really nice looking specs wise, but I have a hard time justifying to myself to spend that much money on a sub.

I don't think you need anything bigger than the micro. Trevor is likely the person I'd default to for a call on that.

If you decide to delve deeper into the 500, call and email Axiom, tell them where you're at and ask them to please scrub their costs and give you their best price.

BTW, if you want to be more assured of hearing, and feeling 20Hz, the 500 is the way to go because it is flat down to 20. This means your room will boost it to likely twice as loud (10 dB) as the micro.

Unfortunately, you can't possibly know unless you try both. So maybe consider an in-home showdown and a return.

Don't worry, Eblack. What you're going through is perfectly normal. I am an excellent example of such normality.

Lol that is alot of speakers. Its funny as now I have started to build one room I am starting to think of if my wife would want a nice music listening area for the upstairs of the house with M2s and a sub. I used to be very much into building music systems in cars when i was in my late teens and early 20s. Once i got into college and what have you it wasn't within my budget anymore, but now I have a little extra cash to spend and can get back into it.

There's just so many choices out there and I want to stay away from the One tone subwoofer like what comes with sound bars. I have found myself listening to more music now that i have speakers in the basement as I turn it on while working out in the other part of the basement area and the M5s sound so good for that.

Hearing wise, being as old as Mojo claims I am, I’d probably need at least a 10db boost to hear stuff below 30Hz … forget about 20. (Be interesting to hook up the function generator and test it.). That said I prefer not to eq anything …

In any case if you’re going 99% movies the accuracy of the sub matters less IMO. It’s there for the low end effects: the smash of impact, the boom of launch, the shake of an earthquake, and the eerie foreboding tone of dread which unconsciously sets you up for something bad. So, I’d bet most anything which claims to hit you’re desired low will be fine. Oh … and Boost to your liking.

If you were going mainly for music … accuracy is important and, personally, I’d find a way to get a EP500 or 400 into the room. Just MO.

Eblack, if you are listening to more music now, you do have a bit of a predicament. Axiom subs are very articulate and make music sound great. Even the 125 gives you growls and texture with a lovely mid-bass pop.

Users have reported on these boards that Axiom sealed subs are better in the music department than SVS. My buddy and I did a head-to-head of his ported SVS 1000 vs my 125v4. There was no question in either of our minds that the 125 was more enjoyable with music. Movies was a different story because the SVS went lower.

As for your wife, you'll want to experiment in the downstairs room with her first. Women are generally very sensitive to bass so she might not need a sub. Another tricky part is what kind of sound she likes. Some listeners prefer the more mellow sound of M3 over the more linear sound of the M2. The M3 also gives more bass. The M3 is more like vinyl and tubes while the M2 is more like CD and solid-state. The M3 is more like Tina Turner while the M2 is more like Norah Jones. The M3 is more like bourbon and cigar while the M2 is more like champagne and chocolates. The M5 is an orgy of all of them.

I love all the v4 in their own way.

Agree with you rrlev. Although I’m not a movie home theatre guy just yet, I think feeling the sounds/ low freq effects is what you want for movies. But in music I don’t think you want to feel it quite as much or at all in most cases, depending on the style of music you are listening too. Too much low freq can muck up the other sounds and be too much. This is obvious I know and I have limited experience with it but from everything I’ve read and watched a sealed sub and dsp for a quick reacting woofer should be the goal for dual purpose music and movie.

My two cents from the nosebleed seats.

So Tina Turner is my bedroom smoking cigars and drinking bourbon while spinning some vinyl amplified with some sweet tubes, ok got it. “ I better head up there, ima gonna head out…..Oh she’s got m5s up here!!!……”