Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Axiom Subwoofers vs other brands. Need compact.

I appreciate the input. I have decided to hold off on buying a sub until later this year. I am going to consider the ep 500 as the sub I want to get. I guess I will see if one pops into the b stock or refurb store over the coming months.

For sure there will be deals in 500s by the fall.

I took a long hard look at SVS subs many moons ago. The biggest seller for deciding on Axiom was in part the ability to have it blend with the other speakers. For a long time many sub makers had black, black and black. I had little interest if they provided no colour options or at least something other than one option.
A friend of mine ended up buying the SVS 'water heater' at the time. It pounds out sound well and was better than the EP350 we had for SPL and 'slam', but the EP350 was way prettier.

Well I guess the SVS sales made me pull the trigger on a micro 3000. They have their memorial day sale going on today and I was able to get a bstock micro 3000 for $650. Been looking at other subs, but this one made the most sense based on its small form factor which is mainly what i wanted here. I'll report back on how it sounds with the M5s once I get it. Thanks again for all the input.

Wow. Look at you go. Good for you!

I was perusing some of the older posts, and I came across this from a former SVS owner who went through four of them:

https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/430837/re-paradigm-prestige#Post430837

Slimpikins hasn't posted for a while, but it would interesting to see what failed on all of them. I wonder if it's for the reason that Andrew covered in one of his older videos:

https://youtu.be/_IbJfwm2Vlw?t=143

Slim's amps suffered infant mortality. Slim now has twin 500s, a 600, an 800 - all v4. He also has a Bryston sub. These support Bryston Model T signatures with twin Anthem M1 amps. Sides are QS10s. For a center, Ian lovingly built him a custom M80HP which has no ports. He has a dedicated panel. He turns all this up very loud in his 10,000 sq. ft. living room as he merrily grazes throughout his gorgeous, self-built timber home chowing down on meats, cheeses and bourbon.

Finishes are Santos Rosewood on the Brystons, knotty pine which turns a lovely shade with age and black oak which is apparently stunning.

His whole house, right out to his self-built, in-ground pool, is like a disco.

With regard to what Andrew said, maybe it's because audio vendors don't know how to design and build switching power supplies. There are hundreds of thousands of switching power supplies, all over the planet, built by teams I managed that were designed, manufactured and tested for a 30 year life and harsh environmental conditions. We shipped them and never got back any returns.

BTW Eblack, if you read this and start to worry, all you have to do is play your SVS for 5 days at 80% volume. If it doesn't fail, consider it good for many years.

Hah the same can be said for many different electronics. Usually if they are bad they go bad quickly or within the first few years. I decided to keep the Micro 3000 and return the PC-2000 Pro. For my uses the Micro is more than good enough as it still gives good performance for the types of shows I watch. I watch more tv shows than movies. Yeah I might get some distortion and not have as much pressure in explosions for the movies I watch every now and again, but the Micro fits the space perfectly and puts out really great sound.

Not to mention it works wonderfully for music. Just wow. Been listening to the Cercle you tube channel a good deal the past week and the Micro is less boomy than the PC-2000. Watched the new Obiwan Kenobi show as well and the Micro does very well with the bass in that show. What I like most about the Micro is how well it blends with the speakers. I have limited space of where to place a sub and the micro I had more options. The spot its in I cant localize the sound and it blends nicely with the M5s. The PC-2000 you could tell the bass was coming from it. I dont know if its because the micro has dual opposing subs on it, but its pretty darn nice. I mainly got the PC-2000 as I wanted to see what I would be missing form the low end on a ported sub versus the small form factor. While I recognize I will be losing pressure and low end, for my uses, I am perfectly fine with that due to the small space I have to work with.

I dont know if its $900 nice, but for $650 I am more than satisfied with my purchase. Maybe when the sound bar in our living room goes I will build a sound system there and try an axiom sub.

Mojo's is slightly exaggerating .... Unless he has a new house. If I remember right ... his room was 30x30 (900sq ft) with a vaulted ceiling (huge by most standards). Call it 12,000+ cubic feet so so ... which is still 3x my 320 sq ft room (a puny 2,900 cu. ft in comparison). Think he needs all those sub just to fill-in/even-out the base.

BTW: I was once in a residential house that was built to impress with a 3 story great room that must have been 7,000 square feet (by eye I'd say 50'x150'x30'). That's not including the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd floor hall ways which opened into it. It had apposing fireplaces on the long walls and a 3 story bay window at the far end. My current house probably could fit inside that thing. Now try filling that 240,000 cu. ft space with sound!