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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
Stereoguy99 #446319 10/05/22 12:18 AM
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No. I meant the M60HP being similar to the F208.

The big difference is the F208 will reach 5Hz lower than the M60. With the M60HP, the difference may be smaller. When using a sub, as Bruce is, that 5Hz difference is insignificant.


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
Stereoguy99 #446320 10/05/22 01:07 AM
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Ahhh.

Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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Of course, as we both know, my advice regarding the M60s relative to the Revels is nothing but facts pieced together from a considered examination of manufacturer claims and nomadic extrospection. Therefore my advice is more hypothesis and educated conjencture than the respected hallucinations of professional reviewers.


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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I found when you give your Axiom speakers more power, they sound better and better.


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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MMM,

That’s exactly correct and is exactly what I have experienced. That sums it all up nicely in one sentence.

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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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Well the 1st part is done...ordered M60Hp's in black oak semi gloss & the VP160 in the B-stock section....now the wait begins for the M60's to be built(chose 25 day wait). Then will compare to the Revel's and keep what I like.Thanks to all that offered up advice & opinions on here & to Andrew Fletcher for his help too!!!So there is part one...more to come,,,have a idea which speakers will win but going to A/B them to be sure!!! grin cool


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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I look forward to reading your facts. smile

BTW, you should hear a difference between your 160v3 mini and the 160v4. I had my 160v4 playing full range so you may want to try that.

As much as I loved the 160, I no longer need a centre with the active LFRs. The centre image is vastly more natural now and I hear details just to the left and right of centre whereas before, these details were collapsed in a more focused region. Unfortunately none of the other Axioms could reproduce this effect during movies.

Did you find out from Andrew what the impedance profile is for the M60HP?

Ask Andrew to send you port plugs. If you place them too close to the wall, you may need them. Maybe ARC can fix that for you though.

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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
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I see on the product page the M60HP is considered 6 Ohm. It will fall into 4 Ohm territory but you should be OK with that Anthem. Not much different than the Revel in that regard.


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
Stereoguy99 #446353 10/07/22 12:56 AM
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Bruce, you said you listen at around -22. For reference, I listen to music at -30 and my active LFRs are calibrated to -1 and 0. I sit 14 feet away. That's how sensitive they are. Very, very satisfying.

Movies are a different story. It's like thunder and lightning, man!


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Re: Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?
Mojo #446354 10/07/22 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Bruce, you said you listen at around -22. For reference, I listen to music at -30 and my active LFRs are calibrated to -1 and 0. I sit 14 feet away. That's how sensitive they are. Very, very satisfying.

Movies are a different story. It's like thunder and lightning, man!

Hi Mojo:After running ARC it set room gain at about 3db if I remember correctly so that I guess why that modest level is where it is at....some recordings are a fair bit higher(not going to go deaf levels,LOL that is not how I listen...but loud enough to really enjoy the music.With the Yamaha had to turn up much louder say -25 for most music compared to 30-35 now...movies are with 3080 -20 and movies sometimes *18.Still getting used to the MRX740...much better then the Yamaha(which is very good)So with the new speakers will be interesting to see errr listen.Will report back should get them later this month or early Nov.!!Thanks Mojo


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