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Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Kodiak #446305 10/02/22 06:20 PM
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I watched the vid and he makes it clear it isnt a review. It is also clear from the video (and scrolling through others) he is a gear cycler and doesnt really understand audio reproduction…. His setup/layout is kind of terrible. None of the folks following his channel understand audio either, or they would take his views with a grain of salt.

I wouldnt get too worked up over it. I was going to reply to his comments section but it wont benefit my life in any way. You cant reason with the unreasonable mob, and seems like the priority of most is “winning” even though audio reproduction isnt a contest. Lol.

Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Kodiak #446306 10/03/22 05:02 AM
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GoodcommentsTrevor. Thanks. I’m calm now. I guess I felt abit defensive. Not much gets me worked up but ignorance really fires me up for some reason.

Party on Wayne, Party on Garth.

I’m carrying on…..


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Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Mojo #446310 10/03/22 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
We need more science to appease the objectivists and subjectivists.
Actually we don't.
This is all jargon.

Blind testing should become the standard. You will find the simplest answer there.
Within its tolerances, and when comparing solid state amps, i've never heard a difference. Neither have the uber audiophiles i know around here once the switcher got built and tested.
Amazing how that little device ruins the 'subjectivist' entirely, until another lame excuse with jargon based reasoning is spouted.


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Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Kodiak #446321 10/05/22 09:33 AM
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I used to think the same for sure. But that is why blind testing isnt always best. An amps use is not always static, and the best setup for one amp is not always the same as another.

They can sound different. And by varying the input voltage from a preamp you can definitely make an amps signature change vs itself. It stands to reason that amps can sound different if you can vary their gain vs input voltage. Different amps mixed in the same setup will cause spl imbalances when input volume is varied. In extreme cases it breaks the experience (think subs and mains at crossover)

You can do this test yourself in your car. Connect your phone to your car stereo. Bluetooth or wired (doesnt matter). Listen to a song loudly with sharp deep impulses. I suggest Phil Collins “I dont care anymore”. Now turn your phone volume down and car stereo up to match volume. Now turn your phone volume up and car stereo down to match volume. Report back…..

This is exactly why calibration is needed when setting up subs properly. You can do the same test as above by changing the sub gain vs AVR output trim. There you go. smile

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Kodiak #446331 10/05/22 09:43 PM
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Ultimately, when it comes to evaluating speakers, it always comes back to the same "tried and true" method of making a decision on whether or not to buy. Prior to making the commitment, If you locate the speakers in your space, listen to some of your favorite music and/or watch some of your favorite movies and you like what you hear, go for it.

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Kodiak #446332 10/05/22 10:32 PM
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The problem though is a person like me who shows up and says what you ought to be hearing is this and therefore your stuff or the way it's set up is crap. Most times not knowing is better so now I just keep my trap shut.


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Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Kodiak #446337 10/06/22 01:40 AM
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Not knowing is called ( politely) , ignorance. There was many and still are things in audio I’m ignorant of. Learning and expanding one’s knowledge should be fun. I’ve learned a ton on this forum and in my experiences with audio and it brings great joy and satisfaction. I say tell it like it is and keep the knowledge and opinions coming. And theres one don’t like it then they can……remain ignorant.

I know a guy who wired his amp to the wrong speakers once and found how stout the power supply actually was, by accident. That’s called active learning and he added that to his knowledge base I bet. :), just saying.

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Re: M5HP “Review” on YouTube
Kodiak #446339 10/06/22 04:03 AM
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He actually wired two different amps to two wrong speakers. He was only half bright and learned twice as much.


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