Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Speaker update Paradigm 800F vs Axiom M60 HP

These are all very entertaining facts.

I personally like Axiom’s thinking. I know I can purchase any model and know the quality is there and what to expect. It’s a model that promotes high reliability and honesty. Not one that needs to come out and say “ hey we are the best!” Rather just keeps on doing what they know is best and moving forward.

While I’m intrigued by Paradigm 800f I’m also more likely to go with what I know I already like and bank on that predictability. ( This assumes one likes the Axiom sound and if done in a blind setting I suspect most would ).

It’s sort of like cars and trucks. It’s very hard to get around the style of a car versus reliability and performance. If you had to pick a blind truck based on its proven performance and long term reliability and how it drove and had no idea how it looked , it would be hard to deliberately choose the worse performer after seeing it. Why would you?

I’m not saying the Paradigm 800f don’t sound good! I don’t know I’ve never heard them.

This is a more general rant than putting paradigm against axiom.

I guess the missing piece is where do your values sit? Not everyone wants high reliability and unbiased decisions. Sometimes it is about fashion over function. ( again I’m not putting down the 800f) I have no doubt they sound awesome! Bottom line is, do what fits your values but you need to know what your values are , otherwise how are you deciding. Even knowing you are biased can not remove that factor from the decision. Going deeper, ( ok now I’m ranting…and this goes way deeper than just speakers) some truly believe they absolutely right even when they are very wrong. Google the term : Dunning Krueger effect. Fascinating stuff.

Either way, nice to have to choices and the enjoyment of deciding.

Then there is the loyalty program, trade-ins, etc that add to the value.

You don't like any pop? Not even the older stuff like Kim Carnes, Carly Simon, Joan Jett, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston,...?

That used to be called rock. So technically, yes sir, I like(d) most of it. Where would you place Fleetwood Mac, the Steve Miller Band, or Joe Walsh?

OK, understood. This shit's complicated, so please pay attention.

There is rock. There is pop. And there is pop rock.

Rock is heaviness and grit and also power of weightier instruments like guitars and drums to add catchy melodies to.

Pop is softer, and uses catchy melodies in a soft background, with a chirpy and often upbeat sound, with little grit but bassy. Pop refers to all sorts of popular music like hip-hop, country, R&B, bubblegum pop, jangle pop, folk, singer-songwriter, K-Pop, and kids music.

Pop rock is the intersection of pop with rock.

Fleetwood Mac was British Blues originally but eventually turned to pop rock.

Steve Miller is rock blues, psych rock, Southern rock.

Joe Walsh is hard/blues/pop/progressive/country rock.

Ummmm....hello, you forgot K-POP....just saying.

That's music found on K-Tel albums. Tyler, you are too young to know K-Tel.

Awww geez...you reminded me of Krazy Kelly's in Winnipeg.

https://youtu.be/pmLqxGKddiE

I used to repair stuff from them in high school.

Yeah before my time. I grew up in the Columbia House Era!