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NRC data show Energy & Paradigm better than Axiom
#47149 05/27/04 05:47 AM
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In terms of frequency response and distortion, Energy and Paradigm are clearly superior to Axiom. In general, Energy and Paradigm frequency response curves are much flatter and the distortion figures are much lower than Axiom's.
http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/speakermeasurements/

Axiom needs to flatten the frequency response and lower the distortion of its speakers to be more competitive with Energy and Paradigm.


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#47150 05/27/04 06:42 AM
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I think Energy and Paradigm need to lower the cost of their speakers to compete with Axiom.

This measurement site has already been beaten to death earlier this year do a search and see what comes up. If you are wondering what the axiomites here had to say.


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Re: NRC data show Energy & Paradigm better than Axiom
#47151 05/27/04 07:00 AM
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Let's look again at these charts - I'll compare the M80s versus the Paradigm Studio 100s because I'm familiar with the Paradigm product.

On axis response for the Paradigm product is very flat to 700Hz (about an F5 for the musically inclined) and stays relatively flat until 12K, when on-axis response slips with a sharp -4dB SPL dip.

The Axiom M80's frequency response is "much" more erratic between say, 150Hz and 800Hz, but the highest variation from a flatline I can read is a thin sliver of a 5dB SPL dip at 625Hz or so.

Without a doubt the Paradigm product shows a flatter frequency response throughout it's effective range, but the M80 is still a very good and flat speaker, and at half of the cost of the Paradigm product, I can forgive the maybe 2-3dB SPL average difference in response (note: a 10dB difference in SPL equates to a perceived doubling of volume to the human ear) - and for the price, a pair of M80s probably sounds a lot better than a single Studio 100.

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#47152 05/27/04 03:42 PM
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Moreover, jbmjr was the one who started those earlier threads.


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Re: NRC data show Energy & Paradigm better than Ax
#47153 05/27/04 03:53 PM
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I agree with Ken.
Ignore the bait.
Go fishing somewhere else.


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#47154 05/27/04 04:09 PM
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Personally, I prefer to listen to speakers than to look at squiggly lines. And no amount of squiggly-line muckraking is going to diminish my enjoyment of my Axioms. I feel sorry for people whose lives are held captive by statistics.


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#47155 05/27/04 04:44 PM
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In reply to:

Axiom needs to flatten the frequency response and lower the distortion of its speakers to be more competitive with Energy and Paradigm.




Ok thanks, ummm... but graphs arent everything and if you feel soo strongly on that then maybe you should ask for a job at axiom

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Re: NRC data show Energy & Paradigm better than Axiom
#47156 05/27/04 08:34 PM
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It would be quite useful if Alan, Axiom's resident expert, can weigh in on this subject.

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He has...here.



Re: NRC data show Energy & Paradigm better than Axiom
#47158 05/27/04 11:22 PM
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Hmmm... I own M60s. I've recently Paradigms in one of the local stores. I have never heard the Energys (Energies??).

I'm happy.

Do you work with, or sell one of these brands?


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