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Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51900 07/12/04 10:05 PM
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The fact that Axiom will take the speakers back doesn't surprise me.

However, that fact that they are doing it proves just how nice they are. I can't think of another company that would even consider doing this.

Hopefully bad press on the insurance company will put tremendous pressure on them - enough to cover your medical bills. I am often in American hospitals and I have seen some sad, sad sights, all for money... Something's wrong when you don't have access to healthcare that will save your life.

Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51901 07/13/04 05:54 PM
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Gosh, I hate to drag this up here, but I think your statement about American health care is a little misleading. True, there is no comprehensive federally managed program that provides health care for everyone, but there are laws that require hospitals to admit folks who are seriously injured without regard for their ability to pay.

I did a quick Google on indigent health care costs. Apparently Texas spent $4.7 billion in fiscal year '98 on health care for the indigent. That amount has got to be way higher now. I also found this rather inflammatory, anti-illegal immigrant site that raises some issues here:

http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/health_care.htm

IMO, it is the working class (who are often uninsured/under-insured and can lose their life savings when tragedy strikes) and the elderly not yet elgible for Medi-Care who suffer most under the current piece-meal system.

Just wanted to point out to the int'l forum members that patients aren't left bleeding to death on the sidewalk in front of the hospital.

Keep us updated if you can, SutterCane.

Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51902 07/13/04 08:09 PM
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Nope, just the lower middle class, as with many thing in this country, which I love, thank you very much.


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Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51903 07/13/04 11:45 PM
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That's what I had in there originally.

My first job after I graduated from college did not provide me with medical benefits - though I paid something like $50 a month for Medi-Cal so that somebody else could go see the doctor. My take home pay was about $1800 a month - or in other words, roughly twice the amount an alcoholic collecting Social Security disability takes in each month.

Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51904 07/13/04 11:49 PM
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If people could pick and choose which taxes they paid and exactly where their money went, do you think this country would even have paved roads or interstates? or sufficient armed forces, for that matter?

You pay, I pay, we all pay for the benefit of others.

Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51905 07/13/04 11:59 PM
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Looks like a thread hijack to me.






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Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51906 07/14/04 12:08 AM
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They hardly build anything with tax dollars anymore. To build schools, freeways and other infrastructure they float bonds, create special assessment districts, increase the sales tax, levy fees on developers, etc...

The abuse of social programs in America is well known. Why should we be surprised?

Maybe some sort of gov't health care system, perhaps at the state level, can work - maybe not. You hear good and bad about the systems in place in Canada and England, but neither of those countries are as large as the US. I don't know... what I have now is sure getting expensive.

Any Canadians care to comment on the health care system up there?



Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51907 07/14/04 12:11 AM
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I prefer to call them detours. See? There's the original topic just ahead!

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#51908 07/14/04 12:20 AM
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OK detour it is.That being said I do wish Sutter and family well.


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Re: Must Sell:Mansfield Beech M50ti's,VP100,QS4's
#51909 07/14/04 12:21 AM
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I was trying.

Seriously though, it would be nice if some of our tax dollars were spent on things that benefited the people who pay taxes. A health care system could be good, if it worked, but would it work here in America? We seem to have a lot more bad guys here than Canada does.

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