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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52254 07/15/04 11:18 AM
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I guess I just desperately want somebody to give me faith enough to buy something besides a Honda or Toyota.
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Tom, I feel exactly the same way. My wife and I have owned 5 new Honda's within the past 10 years, and I couldn't imagine switching to domestic. There are no sedans or vans from the big 3 that even remotely interest me. If Ford imported this car, I would probably jump ship. They would have a true contender, just as long as they didn't water down the suspension, styling, or horsepower.

As a side note, every Honda I've owned was either built in Ohio or Ontario. Further, I believe they had enough North American content to be classified as a "domestic".


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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52255 07/15/04 11:50 AM
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Craig, John is a Browns fan. John, Craig is Browns fan



i always wondered what was wrong with you guys??

GO COWBOYS!!

bigjohn


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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52256 07/15/04 12:26 PM
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I'm gonna throw up!


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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52257 07/15/04 01:36 PM
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I wonder why the wagon version has live axle suspension. There is a market for wagons that perform well...

Other than that, gimme gimme gimme...


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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52258 07/15/04 06:37 PM
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Craigsub:

Axiom set up the Buffalo depot to avoid all the hassle of customs forms, declarations, etc. for US customers returning Axiom speakers across the border to Canada.

If you do your listening comparisons with Joey, try starting off listening to just one speaker of each brand in mono. You can isolate differences in tonal balance very quickly and accurately. Set up the two different speakers fairly close to each other, but not so close that the enclosures would cause interference effects, equalize the output levels, conceal the identity, and switch back and forth. Then you can move on to the stereo tests.

One of the very real problems controlling stereo listening comparisons is the shift in the soundstage when you go from one pair to the other. Not only that, but just the different locations of the other stereo pair introduce variables than may cause you to choose one pair over another. We used rotating turntables at the NRC in Canada when we did stereo sessions. An assistant would rotate the second pair into exactly the same location in the room when we switched from one pair to the other.

What was surprising was that the relative rankings assigned to competing brands did not change from the mono to the stereo tests. All the scores rose a few points in stereo, but the rank order remained unchanged. I would expect the same would apply for tests of 5.1 channel surround systems.

In other words, an inferior inaccurate speaker remains that, whether you listen in mono, stereo or multichannel. Mono listening comparisons are a rigorous test of speaker accuracy and fidelity.

Regards,


Alan Lofft,
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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52259 07/15/04 06:41 PM
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Hey Bukos... looks like we need a rematch!


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Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52260 07/15/04 06:45 PM
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You have a couple of large lazy susans at your disposal?

Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
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If you do your listening comparisons with Joey, try starting off listening to just one speaker of each brand in mono. You can isolate differences in tonal balance very quickly and accurately. Set up the two different speakers fairly close to each other, but not so close that the enclosures would cause interference effects, equalize the output levels, conceal the identity, and switch back and forth. Then you can move on to the stereo tests.




I also found this to help make differetiating characteristics very easy. Using an A/B switch in stereo listening also is a tremedous help. Audio memory is so terrible with us humans, instant switching really helps us.

Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52262 07/16/04 02:55 AM
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Alan... Bless you, Testing in mono is my favorite.

Re: A genuine Invitation to Joey.
#52263 07/16/04 03:03 AM
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I fear Joey has no intention of taking you up on your offer. That might be because he has no intention of coming to this forum again.


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