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Re: OT: politics
#52959 08/16/04 07:08 AM
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Here's a nice link on that same topic

www.notsoswiftvets.com

Of particular interest are a list of quotes about halfway down the page from some of these swiftboat vets. Looks like they're...(gasp!)...flip-flopping!



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#52960 08/16/04 04:15 PM
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Adam, that page doesn't do a whole lot to counter the charges on the other page.

The one INANE linked seems a little over-the-top, but that is the kind of crap the TV news keeps showing everybody regarding Bush. Kerry hasn't had to amount any attack ads because the Hollywood and the media have been doing it for him for the past year (Bush's negative ads have focussed solely on Kerry's voting record in the Senate, from what I have heard).

If you agree with his politics - vote for him. If you don't agree with his politics - then don't vote for him. Unfortunately, the American people are not being informed about Kerry's politics, only his heroism and Bush's "failings".

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#52961 08/16/04 10:50 PM
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If the allegations discussed in this article are true, then people in Florida need to start raising hell.

Intimidating and misleading would-be voters is something our government sponsors in OTHER countries, not our own, right?

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#52962 08/17/04 12:05 AM
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Sorry, I was going to read the first one until I saw the words "Op-Ed" and "New York Times". No point in getting myself ticked off by drivel.
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#52963 08/17/04 05:16 AM
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In reply to:


The one INANE linked seems a little over-the-top, but that is the kind of crap the TV news keeps showing everybody regarding Bush. Kerry hasn't had to amount any attack ads because the Hollywood and the media have been doing it for him for the past year (Bush's negative ads have focussed solely on Kerry's voting record in the Senate, from what I have heard).

If you agree with his politics - vote for him. If you don't agree with his politics - then don't vote for him. Unfortunately, the American people are not being informed about Kerry's politics, only his heroism and Bush's "failings".




EXACTLY!

Plus the link I posted may have been over the top, but if you sit thru the entire thing, there are definitely truths to be seen there.


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#52964 08/17/04 05:18 AM
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Be sure to read this after that NYTimes article, please.


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#52965 08/17/04 12:23 PM
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All these links are starting to seem too much like homework that needs to be done in order to continue participating in the thread.

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#52966 08/17/04 01:34 PM
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And the really silly thing is that each side can easily find printed confirmation of their views on the net, and elsewhere. "Oh yeah? read THIS." "Nonsense, read THIS." "No THIS." "Nah, HERE'S the truth." Ad nauseum.

I don't mean to criticize the thread. I'm quite proud (of it, and all of you) that it has gone on as long as it has and remained as civil (sorta) as it has. My point is, that it's not difficult to find printed support of any view. Doing so doesn't prove the point. It just means that somebody else thinks like you do.


Jack

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Re: OT: politics
#52967 08/17/04 04:29 PM
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Jack... I can say definitely that the Axiom forum has the MOST links per capita of any forum in audio ...

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#52968 08/17/04 06:21 PM
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starting to seem too much like homework



yes, i will have my term paper ready to turn in on friday.

i agree with ajax.. the links just end up being a mindless chain of letters and words to support ones ideas and beliefs. i am sure if i look hard enough, i can find some article about a clan of martians on earth who are plotting to take over the world? doesnt necessarily make it true.. bottom line.. read what you want, believe what you want. but i for one dont need ANY article to help me in the conformation of my own beliefs. i think what i think, and that is that!?!

this is in no way a slam on those who have posted links, i am just thinking and typing..

BTW- Bigwill, what you been buyin from EBAY??

bigjohn


EXCUSE ME, ARE YOU THE SINGING BUSH??
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