Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners New M2is, Using 2 as center channel.

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I will not know till Christmas when the new SVS 16-46PC Plus arrives, and I see how the little M2i's blend in with a much larger sub.

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I did a little test just for you. I hooked up my M3's as my mains and they blended just fine with my SVS PC-Ultra. Hope that helps you a little!

Hello NeverHappy,

Thank you for trying the M3's as mains for me. Have you tried that before? How did they sound with the sub on compared to your M50's? A lot of difference?

Those speakers are moving around as much as my M2's now...hehe.

Have you tried out any more movies with the M3's as your center?

Later,

TonyM

You are more then welcome. With respect to your questions. That was the first time I tried that with the M3's. They sounded just fine at lower levels but as the volume goes up you lose the presence that the 50's bring to the table. Overall they sound the same but the 50's are able to throw more sound. Does that make sense?

As for the M3's at center, yes I have tried a few more movies and they are staying up front and have become my center or centers? of choice. I actually have a VP150 also and the M3's to me at least, still did a better job.

Once upon a time in these forums I posted that I wanted to go with all 50's for all channels. This is turning out to be the first step. My 22's are going and I'm going to put 50's in the back. Not sure if the wife will let me drop a single 50 on top of the TV but...............oh well, a guy has to try! lol

Hello NeverHappy,

Nice to hear that they are still outperforming as a center channel option. M50s all the way around would be what crackpots like us would consider 'ideal', to have the same speaker for all 5 channels. Not sure how you would arrange the center tower speaker though, too big to put ontop of the TV, and the two M3's have the same woofer complement as one M50, and an extra tweeter to boot. The sonic reinforcement of the second M3 should give the same output of one M50 together.

Here is another experiment, put 2 M3's on one side in stereo and one M50 on the other side...you will have to adjust for the different ohms with a channel boost to the 4 ohm side to compensate. Then see if the 2 M3's sound the same as one M50. 2 M3's should output 6db's more than one M3 alone. This experiment will tell you if you really need an M50 at center, or if the M3's do the job as good or better, since they have one extra tweeter.

Later,

TonyM

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put 2 M3's on one side in stereo and one M50 on the other side

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Hello TonyM, (Sorry had to do it!)

I thought of that to........but I'm tired of moving speakers! lol I'm going to go with 50's in the back and leave the M3's as my center. This will also mark the end of my QS8's unless I go 7.1 again but I can live with that.

Hi, I just got an onkyo 501 to go with my Axiom m2is and HSU STF-2. I think it sounds fantastic and has no problem getting to high volume in my modest room, bout 15x15. I have the crossover set to 80hz. My old receiver did not have the option for "small" speakers and sometimes I worried that the bass they were being sent might damage them. Now I don't have to worry about that. =)

Hello MikeS,

Hope you are well. Thank you for the information, this is good news for me. Your room is larger in cubic footage than mine, 225 cubic feet vs only 216 cubic feet in my family room. My ceilings are 8ft, how high are yours?

Yes, having crossover settings in your receiver is very nice, the HK AVR 630 is the first I have owned with quadruple crossover capability.

Later,

TonyM

Yup, mine are 8ft tall too. You know another thing I noticed with the new receiver is that it is putting out a lot more bass in the subwoofer channel than my old receiver. I used to have the STF-2 gain set to 12 o'clock. Now it's at 9 o'clock and producing even more bass. =)

Hiya TonyM. You will really enjoy your SVS and Christmas won't get here soon enough! Just a question - did you discuss the 16-46 PC+ choice with the good folks at SVS?

I have a 352 sq ft/3520 cu ft room and SVS sold me down/guided me to the 20-39 PCi and it has proven to be excellent. I don't run the thing at ear-splitting, chest crushing levels, but I clearly do not need more sub. I certainly WANT more sub, but it would be overkill. I run the gain at about 45% and the sub is set at 2.5 db on my Denon 3803 and the settings cause my fireplace tools to vibrate. Aside from the $$ savings in relation to the Plus series, Erik at SVS explained that there is precious little out there that requires 16hz (unless calliope music is one of your favorites ). His counsel was that 20hz is more than adequate for the low end and the 20-39 would provide more headroom if I decided louder was better. Just some stray, unsolicited input for you.

Hello Ray3,

Hope you are well. I decided on the SVS 16-46 PC Plus on my own. I am a person who listens to a lot of classical, and organ music. So, to produce the lowest note of the mega organs one would want a sub that can go down to 16Hz, which the 16-46PC Plus will do at 90+db...and has 75db down to 10 Hz at the 16 Hz tuning, I might even try the 12Hz option, but I don't think that will be necessary. The 16-46PC Plus will be a little more gentle in the upper bass region, which is fine with me.

Thank you very much for your input, it is appreciated.

Later,

TonyM