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"If I were you I would stay away from the Onkyo, I was looking at the 601 and almost bought it till someone from ecoustics forum show me that the Onkyo stuff are way over-rated, even the higher up version 901 rated at 110w x 7 only capable of putting out about half, and the test report from Sound & Vision tested the clipping occur at 50w!!! save your money and consider Harmon Kardon or Denon.

check out the test reports: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/3401/ratevsac.htm"

Can someone explain this chart to me. Clipping at 47 watts - does that mean the 501 can ruin your speakers if you turn it up to anything more than 2/3 of the way up to it's 65 watt max?

Is there anything else important in that chart - or does it just show that onkyos are middling quality?

Thanks

There is another measurement in November of 2003 by sound and vision that says the 501 clips at 77watts driving 5 channels. Of course I am not sure I read it correctly.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/assets/download/1117200314244.pdf

If you read the fine print right below the ratings. #1 states something to the effect of "while pushing all channels for more than 1 second the Onkyo pushed out 47 watts to all channels. The 77 watts was a brief peak I suppose. 47 watts all channels driven continously is what it says.

it clipped at 47 watts ? I am not understaniding I think.

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some folks that own Sony recievers say they don't recommend running them with a 4 ohm load.

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I've been running my DA4ES a pair of M80's (along with some 6 ohm speakers) for quite awhile now with no problem! There is a 4 ohm switch on the back which allows 4 ohm loads.

- Bill

Thanks Peter,

Hopfully it is working now.

Mr. Bill,
Its my understanding that the 4 ohm switch limits the amount of power the reciever can put out.If the reciever is 100@ 8 ohm with the switch put to 4ohm you then are not pushing the same amount of power.It is a current limiting device (the 4ohm switch).

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Its my understanding that the 4 ohm switch limits the amount of power the reciever can put out.

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That could be. OTOH, no matter what I'm listening to/watching, the 4ES has power to spare. Typical volume settings are:

HT -30dB
CD -52dB
Tuner -56dB

Considering that I have two 4 ohm towers, the center and the 2 surrounds are 6 ohm, and I have two 8 ohm rear speakers and 2 subs, the receiver is doing a great job!

- Bill

Bill,

Looking at your porfile you sure have one heck of a nice system.Glad to hear your Sony does a great job for ya.