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Re: M2i or M22ti?
#60453 09/13/04 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the tip. Seems like you did due diligence.


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Re: M2i or M22ti?
#60454 09/16/04 08:15 PM
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SVS is starting to take order on the PB-10, it has very few options, one LFE connection, phase control and gain, that's it. You can not adjust any xover point on this thing so this sub is practically useless other than for Home Theatre. My HK3480 stereo receiver doesn't has any build-in xover either, I suppose I can build my own xover network but man...what a hassle...

Got M22s today
#60455 09/18/04 01:08 AM
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So far the M22s are significantly better than the M3s - but I have only played two discs - might just have been good (new) cds.

More later - even if no one cares!


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Re: Got M22s today
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"Significantly" better than M3??? in what way? :-) play the same CD on both M3 and M22 and do a A/B comparison, interesting in knowing more...hehe. I'm toying with the idea to upgrade to M22 as well

Re: Got M22s today
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I am in the process of doing that. I need to give it some time cause I don't think I have "trained ears." I have listened to Simon and Garfunkel box set from late 90's - slightly more clear and nicer clear bass than the M3s. Rameau SACD with Pinnock and Podger from Channel Classics - again - slightly nicer. Like the M3s but with more detail and smoother mid and treble (surprise surprise).

But I need to listen for a while to say definitively. I will hook up the M3s again on Sunday to A/B them on stereo setting.

As I say - I don't really think I know what I am hearing for sure yet - over time I think I will be more certain.


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Re: Got M22s today
#60458 09/18/04 03:43 AM
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Don, glad to see that you're enjoying your M22s. I've had them for over two years now and they're terrific for my classical music listening.

DE, again, if you're otherwise interested in the PB-10, the lack of an internal crossover is hardly a major problem, even with your receiver. External sub crossovers are readily available at moderate cost, such as this simple plug-in.


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M22s WAF factor
#60459 09/20/04 02:44 AM
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I like the sound and the looks of the M22s. So does my wife! She said now we need to buy furniture and a house to go with the M22s!

Of course tomorrow she will ask if I am done buying speakers yet...



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Re: M22s WAF factor
#60460 09/21/04 11:03 PM
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As I posted before, I've also been comparing the M3ti with the M22ti, and I prefer the M3ti. The M22ti sounds slightly more analytical, but whenever I switch back to the M3ti it sounds more musical to me. The M22ti has a boost in the higher frequencies (1KHz to 7KHz) that makes it sound a little more detailed, but it can also sound a bit tizzy on some recordings. The bass on the M3ti is boosted a little (about 3db) at around 100Hz, which some may prefer or dislike. A lot depends on your listening room. If it's lively (not much furniture or wall hangings), I would recommend the M3ti. Also, keep in mind that the impedance of the M22ti dips to about 3 ohms at 4KHz, so some receivers may have a little difficulty driving them. The bottom line is that they are both great speakers for the money.

Re: M22s WAF factor
#60461 09/22/04 12:41 AM
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I thought my room might be like yours with the shelves and small size - but I have a rug and some wall hangings and to much furniture to make the room accentuate the high notes on the M22s. They both sound great here - the M22s sound more detailed and smooth I think.

I am not going to try them side by side - I need to send the M3s back to get the refund and it is too much work getting behind the reciever in the small corner it is in.

But, in the first hour of transition I thought the M2s were smoother, clearer and more detailed. Not night and day but maybe late afternoon and midday.




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Re: M22s WAF factor
#60462 09/22/04 12:48 AM
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In reply to:

Also, keep in mind that the impedance of the M22ti dips to about 3 ohms at 4KHz, so some receivers may have a little difficulty driving them.



No receiver will have a problem driving the M22s.
Do not take the stats so literal. A single spike in the low ohms range does not make it a hard to drive speaker. A sustained ohm rating over a larger range of frequencies is required to put stress on the amplifier section.


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