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Re: reducing brightness
#6036 10/04/02 06:21 PM
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I had a similar experience with the M60's being too bright. Call Joe Vasello (sp?) in service. He has a fix to try out. It has worked nicely for me. Part of my problem was that these are bright speakers AND I have a bright receiver. Aimee may extend your trial time too in order to give you a chance to see if you like Joe V's fix.
Overall, I am very happy to have kept these speakers.

Re: reducing brightness
#6037 10/04/02 07:21 PM
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Just curious....Why not post the fix here so everybody who have experience same problem can do the fix right away???

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#6038 10/04/02 08:56 PM
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I too am very interested in what the fix is. I don't think my M60s are too bright, but maybe they already 'fixed' mine.

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#6039 10/05/02 01:27 AM
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I would definitely verify that your speakers are properly hoked up. The positive and negative are likely to be inversed if a tiny pair of bookshelves that are not that good are outperforming the M60's.

If you are still having difficulties, contact Joe at Axiom.

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#6040 10/05/02 06:00 AM
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OK...here is the deal
The straps are hooked up proper and the two bass drivers are working. After using them for a while I find they do have deeper bass than my Dynos but it is a very differant type of bass. It is deep but does not have the same sense of power to it...hard to explain. I still find them much to bright for my taste but clearer than the Dynos. I think they VERY good speakers for the price but just to bright for taste (it seems I'm not alone here.) I will look into the "fix" that has been mentioned here. No matter how good a speaker system may be if it is to bright it is a deal killer for me. They have to much brightness in the mids and just slightly to much highs for my ears (or perhaps for my listening room.)
Over all however I think they are good speakers that many people would be very happy with.
BTW...the little Dynos were the same price as the M60 and are pretty darn good..but no longer made.

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#6041 10/05/02 12:30 PM
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I think at this point you should probably return the speakers.

It seems to me you enjoy more of a silk dome tweeter type of sound.

If you do a search at hometheaterforum ( in the speakers and subwoofer section) you will find many recomendations for these types of speakers.

Although the Audience 40 is discontinued you still could try the 42 or 62 and 72 floorstanding models.

http://www.dynaudiousa.com/products/audience/62/aud62.htm


The Rockets and Diva's also have silk tweeters. You can find out about those products at AVS Forum. They are sold at:

http://www.av123.com/diva_r3.shtml#

http://www.rocketloudspeakers.com/default.asp




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Re: reducing brightness
#6042 10/09/02 05:38 PM
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the fix is hardware related - Joe sent me some resistors for the tweeters. I thought it best he discuss it with Joe to see if this would even help with his concerns.

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#6043 12/09/02 08:06 PM
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Just a quick note about breaking-in a pair of new speakers... I wouldn't normally think there would be a noticable difference after several hours of use, but I'm convinced there is, and it is the speakers. I upgraded from a pair of M22's to M60's a few months ago, going from 200-300 hours of use on the M22's to fresh M60's... When I first got the M60's, I was suprised in how little the bass came out... I even compared with the M22's and the bass output was almost the same from the bookshelf's... But after a few weeks and a lot of hours of use, the bass really comes out of the M60's. The only reason I'd ever get a sub now is for home theatre, and then only if there was a good sound barrier between me and my neighbours.

As for the trebble, I do think Axioms are a bit on the bright side, or rather accurate side. But I find that for most of the music I listen to, if it's well-recorded then it sounds superb. For some CD's, I turn the treble down a decible or two. But it is definately a matter of developing tastes, as well, since I now spend a lot of time listening to the trebble lines, whereas before I got into hi-fi audio I cared more about bass.

Another note for those thinking Axiom's are lean on the bass side is that they aren't designed to bloat the bass out at around 100 Hz, as other speakers I've listened to seem to. Room placement is critical for fixing or causing this "problem" as well.

Scott

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#6044 12/09/02 08:19 PM
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Dynaudio speakers are amazing speakers. They have won many awards in the bookshelf category because its great bass extension in a small bookshelf format. Even their new lines have out bet lines by B&W, Celestion, Monitor Audio.

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