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harsh edgy sounding speakers?
#6236 10/09/02 04:10 AM
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I think all of these post of harsh sounding speakers is the direct result of power,or lack there of.I found by adding a 400 watt per channel power amp that the bass increased ten fold and that the harshness turned into clarity and detail that blends in perfectly.even though my m 80's worked with my onkyo receiver the sound never came together untill I intrduced the power amp to my system.anyone else feel the same?

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#6237 10/09/02 01:08 PM
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murphyman

you might be onto something. I would suggest to anyone who is having a very bad experience with Axiom to take those speakers and plug them into different electronics, or maybe another room. There could easily be an outside factor affecting their sound. I have never noticed harshness or edgyness. However, remembering my days as a kid when I had 2 wpc computer speakers, if I put them up a bit, they sounded very harsh and edgy. Lack of power may very well be the reason.

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#6238 10/22/02 12:19 AM
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I powered my M3ti with a 50W/channel tube amp and I didn't notice any brightness. It used to sound very harsh and bright with my ss amp. But not w/ tube.

Good Luck.

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#6239 10/22/02 03:54 PM
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400 watts amp? How much is it?
I use Denon 3802. If this is inadequate, we shouldn't buy axiom at first place.


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#6240 10/22/02 05:36 PM
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Don't get yourself even drawn into this one, read the following post for details on this debate. http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=tech&Number=6362&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

On the second page of post murphyman starts into this whole thing about the 400 watt amp.


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#6241 10/23/02 09:48 PM
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check out Ian's and Amie's tower of power on the Axiom wall of fame @www.axiomaudio.com/wallofame.html dose it prove anything or is it just another nice system? sorry I don't know how to post a link,maybe someone else you'ld like to give it a go.........

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#6242 10/23/02 10:20 PM
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during your post, you will see on the upper right corner of the page saying "so you may use UBBCode in your posts." (only if your uubcode is enabled), click that link and you will get another page that contains all the necessary info about adding UUBCODE.

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#6243 10/23/02 11:01 PM
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i have my m50's hooked up to my 20 year old sansui 8900 dlb dc reciever. and let me tell you it opened up the speakers 10 fold compared to my denon 1802

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#6244 10/24/02 12:06 AM
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Murphyman your not going to try to start into this all over again, Ian's Tower of Power are mono blocks so you need all of them to get the 6 channels. And yes the only thing it says is I have a nice system, not look what I need to drive these speakers.

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#6245 10/24/02 01:20 AM
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Hi Murphyman,

I was thinking about this whole current vs. power debate that we have been having and I see that you don't seem to be making the connection. From your profile I see that you are into Hot Rods, so maybe I can explain it a little differently to you. We can equate this very nicely in terms of Horse Power and Torque (HP=watts, Torque=current). Think of your Onkyo as a Chevy 350 small block that puts out 400hp with 385 lb/ft of torque, on the other side of this we have a Denon 5803 this is like lets, say a Cummins ISM 400 which also puts out 400hp but with 1450 lb/ft of torque. Now we look the load we are going to pull. 8ohms=5000lbs 4ohms=10,000 lbs 2ohms =20,000 lbs. If I take your small block Chevy with the same HP output as the Cummins and I hook them up the 5000lb load. They both pull the load very happily and go about their business, now we move on to the 10,000 lb load the small block could probably move the load, Albeit not very well. Its going to overheat the engine is certainly being overworked and inevitably will shut down if you don't back off. Hook up to the 20,000 lbs, the small block will just curl up and die, the Cummins will not even be breathing hard. Same HP output why the difference? Torque correct? Same equates in watts vs. current. I hope that this analogy helps to put things into perspective for you.

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John.


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