Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Wall mount M22TIs, too high?

Hi,

Looking at the photo of my room, you can see I don't have much room up front. I'm not reorganizing, there is no room for my computer desk elsewhere. I'm going to have to wall mount speakers about 5 feet above the groudn (that's how tall the DVD rack is on the left). The center will have togo underneath the TV.

The question I have is, how will this sound? If I use the $70/pair wall mount, it allows me to tilt the speakers left/right/up/down. My listening area is about 9-10 feet away, but ears are only about 3 feet above the ground (so the speakers, if headed straight, would be well above ear level).

Any suggestions? Room is 11x11x8. I am going for QS4/QS8 in rear...Thanks.



-ELmO

Hi Reuben,

I saw your post over at av123. I post over there, also. Most of us, who don't have a room specifically for our home theater, have to live with compromises when it comes to placing our speakers. I have very few options for placing my mains, and center. In fact, like you, I too have my center on a shelf in the unit that my HDTV is on.

The VP100 and VP150 are both 7 1/2 inches in height. If you have that much vertical space on the top shelf of your unit, you could put your center there, on it's back (just flip the grille over and it looks great), which would aim the speaker up at your ears. I do this with mine. You'd have to leave the speaker sticking out off the shelf a couple of inches to avoid reflections off the bottom of the shelf the TV is on, but that will work OK.

If you use the FMB (Full Metal Bracket) to mount the M22s (or M2s, ore M3s), that would allow you to aim the speakers down toward your ears, and that, too, would work OK.

None of this is ideal. But, in a room that size, with as much as you have in the room, that's gonna be about as good as you're gonna get, and I doubt that you would be unhappy with the results.

I would think the QS4s would be great in a room that size. As you mentioned over at av123, the QS surrounds are FABULOUS! Of the Axioms I have (M60s, VP150, QS8s), I feel the QS8s are the best at doing what they are designed to do. I love 'em, and would be surprised if you didn't love 'em too.

It would also help a bit to mount the M22s upside-down to get the tweeters a bit lower (closer to ear level).

Question for you -- I see the CD/DVD rack, where is the player ? Any chance you could rearrange furniture a bit, or are you using the computer as player ?

Thanks for the feedback. I have a Denon 2910 dVD player coming on Monday. I have Jury Duty monday so I am currentyl only worrying about that.

I really have no room for my computer desk, it's unfortunate. To the right of this is a closet (taht opens outwards so I can't really put anything next to it). Behind (what you can't see) is a wall where my bed is, an SVS 16-46 is in the corner, and the door to my room. My Closet really messes this all up.

I am also considering getting onix rockets with the EMO ultralite (pre processor-amp) for $2400 shipped. It's a significantly more expensive system, but the amplifier/pre-processor is supposed to be great, and they throw in a denon receiver until the pre-processor/amp ship (in March). It's about $1200 alone for 22, vp150 and qs8, and then I need a receiver. Something of nice quality will be about $1000, so $2200 total for this, or $2400 for rockets with a pre-amp processor on them.

The resaon I am still considering axiom is due to everyone saying the QS4/8 are hte best. I really want them fo rmovies, but I don't nkow if I'd like the onix rocket 750s more for music than m3/m22s.....

Thanks for any help,
ELmO

could you find a mega changer for the dvds and shift the tv to the left a little and put the 22s on stands on each side? just a thought

If you are going to wall mount, I would recommend getting M2's instead. They wall mount much easier and have a very similar sound to the M22'S.

I do not know what kind of receivers you are looking at, but you can get great Denon, Yamaha and Pioneer Elite recievers for $300-600 online. You do not need 130 Watts per channel recievers in a room that size, you will not likely ever notice the difference between 80 watts and 200 watts in your room.

And again, it is not like your setup is ideal for accoustics anyways.

Don't bother. He bought Rocket 750s/200/300s today.

Aren't the Rockets even bigger than M22s ? I *have* to see those mounted on the wall

emalloc posted over at AVS that he was considering the 22s or the 750s. I posted:

"You do realize, don't you, that the Axion M22s are 20" tall, 16 lb. bookshelf speakers, and the Rocket 750s are 38" tall, 72 lb. floorstanding speakers. It was my impression, based on the information your provided in your thread over at the Axiom forum, that you had limited placement options because of a DVD rack and computer desk, and would be wall mounting the speakers. Your room is 11x11x8. Correct?"

He posted:

"I do have limited placement optoins (sic), but that is currently. I'm in this room for another year then the set up will be in a larger room, so - I would rather buy for "that" room rather than my own and have to upgrade later on.

Sorta changed horses in mid stream.

He did, however, get a fabulous deal. He gets a $2150 speaker package (750 fronts/200 center/300 surrounds) AND a Denon 2805 receiver, all for $2650. But, get this. In March, he returns the 2805, and gets a brand new $1200 preamp/amp separate combo that av123 is bringing out at that time. No extra charge (except for the shipping). So he ends up with a $1200 preamp/amp for $500 plus shipping. Tough to pass that up, if you have the money.

The amp is 6x125 wpc into 8 ohms, or you can configure it so you get 5x125 wpc and 2x60 wpc, all into 8 ohms, for a 7.1 setup.

The preamp has a 2x25 wpc amp for a zone 2. So, included in the deal is a $100 pair of outdoor speakers.