Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Audio opinions...and stated "facts"

I would like to make an observation.
It seems that when it comes to "opinions" about audio products in general, we all have one.
That being said, I have noticed lately that it seems like more and more posts are from people that have little, or no personal experiece with said product.
Most of the members are well informed, and quite interesting, helpful, etc.........BUT......it would help me if those who are not sure of what they are posting about.....would mention that.

Ie., "brand x is, or is not a good product because....I owned one and here's why", or my friend had one......etc, NOT just opinion for the sake of opinion, or "parroting" something they heard, or read.

The same for posting "bogus" things about Axiom, (someone here once posted that axiom also made "speakers" for other Canadian mfgs.) and their products....unless of course it's a new, and/or interesting FACT.
I hope this doesn't sound like a rant, (I do enjoy this forum)...but I KNOW many depend on this for factual information on all kinds of related (and non-related) subjects, and I would hate to see anyone, (especially newbies) (inadvertently "misled".

i hope you wernt "misled", which was the cause of your post?

the only time i really mention advice on equip that i dont own, is when it is something that has been mentioned or discussed on here so many times, i feel like i have owned it.

EXAMPLE #1- the discussion between which receiver to get? onkyo, denon, HK, yamaha, pioneer elite, sony ES, integra, etc.. i have read enough reviews, and seen enough chat, that i feel somewhat educated on the pro's and con's of each receiver.

EXAMPLE #2- subs.. SVS, HSU, Velodyne, Paradigm, Earthquake, Vega, Dayton, etc.. same here.. i have read just about all i could want to know about these subs. and i DO try and clarify that i speak from what i have read, not what i have heard.

but i understand where you are coming from. i think your request, or advice, will be taken to heart.. that is, if it dont piss nobody off

bigjohn

It came off with a bit of an "edge", ( which I didn't intend).........but I didn't mean YOU!

oh, i didnt take it personal.. i was trying to give examples as to why i, or anyone, would state things as "facts". trust me, the intent of your post is not lost. i understand where you are coming from..

bigjohn

Axiom used to manufacture speakers (Merak) that were sold through Canadian Radio Shack stores. Not a bogus story at all.

Oops now I think my post had a bit of an "edge" sorry

Here's some info on Merak http://merak.ca/history.html.

Not sure if they are still being produced.

If you're looking for unbiased, 100% accurate information on the internet you're in trouble.

i think he meant if you never heard it,how can you reccomend-not reccomend-or compare products to one another

BINGO!

The post I read, (back in february I think) said the drivers were made in Canada for other Canadian mfgs. too.....maybe I am remembering it wrong......anyway, thanks for clearing that up.

I didn't mean to torque you guy's off....sorry

i dont think you "torqued" anyone off man.. its all good. i think people are just trying to give you explanations, and in fords case, the article he was refering to.

in general, every one in here is trying to help people out. but i can dig where the intent of your original post is coming from. i think you are mis-reading peoples responses as being combative.. i dont think there is any animosity at all.

bigjohn

COOL.........

Another thing to consider is that information provided here also triggers other thoughts ( I just ordered a Mega Canger for my CDs because of that phenomenon ). In many cases, while the poster doesn't necessarily have direct experience with something specific, they may have a model that is close. Also, most active participants are doing alot of reading in forums like this and the interent in general and details from other folks emerge and are shared. As long as the spirit of the information is to be helopful and you divide by whatever BS factor you feel comfortable with, the whole thing works reasonable well.

I agree, I too, attempt to "filter" out the jibber-jabber.......and, I saw your other post about "mega changers", but not having any information, or personal experience with one....I didn't reply.

Sorry, about that "dorky" smiley-face.....I swear I didn't click on THAT, ...here is the "corrected" one.

But you need to remember that if someone has a "bad" piece of information, the only way they will be provided with the "correct" information is if they post what they believe to be true, and someone responds to correct them.

I also see a lot of posts that seemingly intentionally redirect the thread, and add nothing but increasing the posters posted count......someone once quoted "YAUP" yet another useless post - or something to that effect.

Anyway, we all have our own method of "filtering"...sometimes - in my case - I am mistaken for abandoning the board!!!

I like Ray's comment about "BS Factor".

When I was in college (before the Internet!), there was a guy in my dorm named Darryl. We had "The Darryl Formula" - of the things he said, about 25% you could believe, 25% you could kind of speculate on and 50% you should totally disregard. Of course, the hard part was figuring out which things fell into the 25% believable quartile.

I am also reminded of the old maxim that "If you believe everthing you read, you probably shouldn't read so much".

I try really hard to cite my sources, and craft responses that are clearly labeled as opinion rather than fact. And you know what they say about opinions....

No! Not that one, this one "Anybody can get the facts - having opinions is an art".

People need to be responsible for what they believe individually, and also consciously understand that the internet, including this forum, is just another public street corner. Credibility and trust are earned, not assumed. I hang out here for fun - if I wanted the truth, I'd go somewhere else.

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When I was in college (before the Internet!), there was a guy in my dorm named Darryl. We had "The Darryl Formula" - of the things he said, about 25% you could believe, 25% you could kind of speculate on and 50% you should totally disregard. Of course, the hard part was figuring out which things fell into the 25% believable quartile.

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And his brother Steve lived with me. What a jerk.