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#72601 - 12/17/04 05:45 PM Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
COACH2369 Offline
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Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 91
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
I have a quick question that I could use some advice on...

I currently own a 3803 for my receiver and I am getting my second case of upgraditis(I think that is unofficial spelling) this month. I just got done upgrading my DVD player and I extremely happy with the quality of it. I am sure it will look even better once the TV is calibrated.

Okay, now my question... I had the oppoturnity to listen to the same surround setup I have in a room that is basically the same layout and size as mine. The only difference was he had the 5803 and I was impressed on how it sounded and now I want one. Would anybody recommend where I could find one of these now that the 5805 is out?
I am willing to buy this one used, if the price is right.

Also, would there by a cheaper way of adding more power to my system?

Thanks in advice... this forum always comes through.


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#72602 - 12/17/04 07:31 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
richeydog Offline
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Registered: 05/24/04
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Hey Minirock are you out there? Seriously though, a new or used amp should give you the POWER you desire. Parasound, Rotel and many others will give you great performance at a lower cost than buying a 5803. Unless you need all those features from the denon?
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#72603 - 12/17/04 07:40 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
COACH2369 Offline
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I am looking for more power, I am completely happy and satisfied with what the 3803 offers except the power..:)

I guess I should start researching AMPS... Should I look for a 5 or 7 channel amp? I have 7 channels going right now, but are the prices of 7 channel amps outrageous? what is a good price for a 7 channel amp?
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#72604 - 12/17/04 08:29 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
Wid Offline
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How about an external amp to power just the fronts and let your 3803 power the rest of you system.There is Rotel RB1080 Parasound HCA 1500A or the Outlaw M200 monoblocks,all of which will give you 200 watts per channel.They are also a heck of a lot cheaper than the Denon 5805.You could get a whole stack (7) of the Outlaw amps for less than half the cost of the 5805.
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#72605 - 12/17/04 08:34 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
COACH2369 Offline
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That would be a possibility. The only problem with that would be I don't have a lot of space. I saw the Outlaw 770 for about 1500 as a B-Stock item on there website. WOuld that work for what I am looking for?

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#72606 - 12/17/04 08:39 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
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I would have to say heck yes.The 770 is also 200 watts per.Then when you get the M80s you won't have to worry if you can drive them .Looks like a pretty good deal.
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#72607 - 12/17/04 08:52 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
richeydog Offline
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That looks like a good deal. 7x200watts with free shipping and great customer service. Or if you want to save some coin, get a new(or used) outlaw 755(5x200) and use your denon for the rear surrounds.
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#72608 - 12/17/04 09:58 PM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
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Jeff, there are so many things that can affect sound in different systems that it's highly unlikely that the 5803 was really the only difference or that you need more power. Your 3803 is highly likely more powerful than you need(the 5803 has little in the way of additional peak sound level capability). Try to control this lust for power.
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#72609 - 12/18/04 10:35 AM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
Wid Offline
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In reply to:

Try to control this lust for power.




If thats what the man wants so be it.It's his money and it doesn't hurt anyone else.

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#72610 - 12/18/04 10:39 AM Re: Quck questions regarding the Denon 5803A
expatbrit Offline
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Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 148
Loc: Minnesota
Coach,

I just went the 200wpc power amp route, using my 3803 as a pre-amp processor. It really does make a difference, JohnK seems to be against anyone upgrading anything electronic! Incidentally I just went with a stereo power amp for now, to drive my M60 mains, and continue to use the 3803's power section for the rest of my 7.1 setup. I got a used Harman/Kardon Signature 1.5 amp for $300.

Happy upgrades!

Stuart
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