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#74158 - 12/31/04 09:56 PM Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from Ecost
TKHanson Offline
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Registered: 12/31/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Denver, Colorado
Anyone got strong opinions (either way, of course) regarding buying a refurbished receiver from web retailers such as Ecost? I'm about to purchase some M80s and need a good 4 ohm receiver to power them. I've thought about Denon's from Ecost--that are "re-conditioned", as they call them. Any thoughts? Experience?

Also, anyone disagree with a DENON 3803 or the like for the M80s?

Thanks!

TKHanson
Denver

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#74159 - 12/31/04 11:10 PM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from Ecost
Ajax Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6331
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I believe Denons will work fine with the 80s.

Several of us here have purchased refurbed units from eCOST. There is always the possibility of getting a bad unit, but the consensus seems to be that your chances of getting a lemon are no greater with a refurb than they are if you buy a new unit. Perhaps even less, since any problems have been addressed and corrected.

eCOST is an authorized Denon dealer, so you do get a 90 day warranty. You might also check Dakmart.com. They are also an authorized Denon Dealer, and have the black 3803 for $619.98, with a one year warranty, and the silver 3803 for $694.98 with one year warranty.
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#74160 - 12/31/04 11:45 PM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from Ecost
TKHanson Offline
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Registered: 12/31/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Denver, Colorado
Thanks, Jack! I'll have a bit more faith in them now. I've just got to settle with buying a Denon or H/K, when all along I was thinking about NAD. Trouble is, I'm not sure if NAD is worth the cost.

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#74161 - 01/01/05 02:19 AM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from Ecost
ravi_singh Offline
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 1351
Loc: Montreal
Denon is perfect for M80's, I have the low end, low cost 1602 driving them

the 3803 will be perfect

not too sure if NAD will do 4ohm, last I heard, they often don't.

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#74162 - 01/01/05 02:44 AM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from E
Lorenzo1000 Offline
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Registered: 02/07/04
Posts: 537
Loc: Winterpeg
I believe E-Cost has the Denon AVR-1083(exactly the the same as the 3803, rebranded for less high end stores) for just under $500 (you have to add it to your cart on the site to see the sale price).
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#74163 - 01/01/05 11:01 AM I have a NAD C 352 and it is worth the cost.......
Todd Offline
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Registered: 05/22/04
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80 watts and got it for 399.00 open box. It has won numerous awards since they re-vamped the first model. Go to their website. It is paired with a Rotel CD player, Pioneer 563 combo, and M60's. It is a set up that has blown me away. Mainly because of the good people on the website.....
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#74164 - 01/01/05 11:02 AM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from E
md55 Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 284
Loc: Nevada City, CA
I bought a refurbished Denon receiver without a problem from ecost after a horrible experience with Dakmart. Dakmart is a terrible company, dishonest with 0 customer service. I found after my experience with Dakmart that they had a .23 out of 10 customer satisfaction rating as compared to ecost's 5.5 rating. I am still trying to get my money back from the credit card company after Dakmart lied to them in writing about the transaction. They were also 40% more expensive than ecost after the shipping costs. I'd hate to see anyone else have the kind of experience I did.
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#74165 - 01/01/05 01:15 PM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from E
Ajax Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6331
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Jeez Mark, I don't doubt, for a minute, that you had the problem you related, and I'm very sorry you had that go through that.

I can only go by the one experience I had with Dakmart. I ordered a refurbed 3805, but had to cancel my order after they had already dunned my credit card. I was concerned about this because I had a bad experience with Markertek, who hit my credit card TWICE for a purchase I had to cancel, and it took me months of fighting, with the help of my credit card company, to get BOTH charges refunded.

Surprisingly, the very afternoon I canceled my order with Dakmart, the refund was credited to my credit card account. So, I have no complaints with the service I received. You just can't be sure what's gonna happen with some of these companies. I've heard stories similar to yours with eCOST. But, I've never had a problem with them either. Go figure.
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#74166 - 01/02/05 10:27 AM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from E
littleb Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1235
Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
I ordered a brand new AVR-3803 from ecost back in October. It never materialized but in the 2 months I waited they never charged my credit card. My experience with them leads me trust them as far as maliciously charges are considered. A rule I have learned is that when ordering from them ignore anything with a truck icon, only order things with the sun sign.

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#74167 - 01/02/05 11:35 AM Re: Re-conditioned or refurbished Receivers from Ecost
Huwonk Offline
regular

Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 6
Loc: Ohio
I use a factory reconditioned Denon AVR-485S (essentially a 1705) to power my M3s and VP100, and I can't find a single thing wrong with it. I paid $180 at ecost.com as opposed to $300 MSRP. I've always had wonderful success with refurbished items regardless of where I purchased them from.



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