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Re: The HiFi Industry
#74507 01/04/05 02:47 PM
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Sounds like "Live and Let Live".... which makes perfect sense to me....


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Re: The HiFi Industry
#74508 01/04/05 03:31 PM
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No shot............I thought you would find the post "most interesting"
It's too bad the thread has gone way off topic.....I like to read interesting posts.... (like this one), people have taken the time to make, for all to enjoy.........then read the (relevant) replies.

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Re: The HiFi Industry
#74509 01/04/05 03:58 PM
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Trevor, John and Bray make excellent points relative to the 985/2805. You might also want to look at the 983/2803. As far as ecost is concerned, the arrival of inventory is unpredictable and iffy at best. They receive units when Denon has something to send them. The "good stuff" moves pretty quickly. I'm surprised that the 3803 is still there.

I don't believe bray's referral is an "authorized" Denon etailer; you may want to check the Denon site. I'm not sure how important that is. When you buy from ecost, there is a 90 day Denon warranty. When I got my DVM-4800, I added another 12 mos (service provided through PCMall) for $30.



Re: The HiFi Industry
#74510 01/04/05 04:01 PM
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BBIBH:

I like your thinking.

I suppose we could wrap it up to a matter of diminishing returns. What returns on your money would one get when spending 20K for a set of fronts? Perhaps that little bit of "excellence" the owner would perceive is just enough to justify the cost to him or her. If that is their prerogative, so be it.

What I didn’t clearly articulate in my post was what bothers me most. The false perception that higher cost equates to quality. It’s a factor of our society; I see it almost everywhere. However, seldom does significantly higher cost really equate into directly into direct value for the investment.

No intention to stab at BMW owners, but if you study the 760Li, like I have, you would realize it is a very fine automobile; however, $117,300 MSRP? I could buy many amazing cars for 50k to 60K that would perform as well, ride almost as smooth, last as long—if not longer, and in some cases even do better than the 760Li, etc, etc. But the prestige and power some (I said SOME) feel when knowing most people on the road can not afford their car—but most covet it—helps justify that extra cost to them. It is part of the American way. I believe this same induced thought process of spending money does influence some who audition expensive speakers. I witnessed it with my audition mentioned above.

Just some more thoughts to stir the brain…by the way, I’ve test driven the 760Li; loved it, but just couldn’t feel like I could sleep at night knowing it costs that much jack—besides my wife would leave me if I bought it. I would have to be incredibly wealthy to not feel that way, and I don’t me sort of rich, but 7 digit rich….It's just a CAR, for crying out loud! Iron, leather, rubber, PLASTIC.


Re: The HiFi Industry
#74511 01/04/05 04:09 PM
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Ray: I supposed I'm just too new to Ecost and PCMall, but their web sites look identical, except for branding...are they one and the same?

Re: The HiFi Industry
#74512 01/04/05 04:28 PM
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You are correct. ShopSunshine is NOT an authorized dealer.
That is something that was not that important to me.
At the time I was shopping, I couldnt find a 985 from an authorized dealer, and the 2805 was considerably more expensive from the autorized dealers.


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Re: The HiFi Industry
#74513 01/04/05 04:31 PM
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Bray: How long have you had your receiver and any issues to date? My only fear is that I'd have an issue 6 months in and repair costs would be 1/2 the cost of new.

Re: The HiFi Industry
#74514 01/04/05 04:40 PM
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yes...PCMall, and Ecost are the same company.



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#74515 01/04/05 04:40 PM
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I'm really not exactly sure, but its been between 3-5 months. The only problems I've had have been operator error.
I have also been told that if your going to have problems with a new reciever, it will usually happen within the first 10 hours of playing, which in my case was the first 10 hours after set-up.


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Re: The HiFi Industry
#74516 01/04/05 04:50 PM
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After checking all my posts, I see that I recieved the 985 on 10/12.


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