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Center Channel and Sub concerns
#76290 01/12/05 04:38 PM
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Okay, you all have graciously sold me on the Axiom line in general and I will be taking the plunge this month. While I am VERY confident that I will LOVE the M60's and QS8's. There seems to be some concern over the VP150 and The EP500. Regarding the sub, I just want to know that it is an awesome sub even at it's $1100 asking price. (better than HSU?). More importantly, the VP150 seems to be the most debated speaker on this and Audioholics regarding quality. I plan on ordering the light maple finish, so I feel like if I don't go the VP150 route, are there other centers that will match both timbre and cabinet w/the other axioms? Hoping folks can just assure me that the VP150 is the way to go. Thanks as always to everyone.


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#76291 01/12/05 05:32 PM
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I'm completely satisfied with the VP150. The only time it sounds funny (boxy, hollow?) is when watching some TV broadcasts. Sports announcers in particular sound overly resonant. But then commercials come on and the whole system, including the VP150, sound spot on natural and perfect. It's the source.
Dunno about the EP500, but it looks good, eh?

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#76292 01/12/05 06:02 PM
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i personally have the paradigm cc-370 with my m60's and they sound great together. i found the vp-150 to have bad off axis problems and also the dreaded unnatural S's.
If you want natural sounding voices you may wish to audition the cc-370.

Dont forget to check out the SVS line of subs, they are an incredible sub and also have 45 days in home trial.


Just something to think about, most high end centers will have a broader range, this helps lower male voices, etc. to actually come from the front, its not really giving you the true effect if your sub is producing Barry Whites voice (or any other low male voice). It will not be coming from the front; as much as everyone wants their sub to be non directional most can still be located by ear and if you are rolling your center off at 100 then you are losing the true intended direction of voices below that range. This can also be an issue with your surrounds. You will benefit if you can produce as much range with them also, it will really add to the realism in a home theater setup.

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#76293 01/12/05 08:46 PM
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I hesitate to point this out, but there were only 2-4 people on these forums who did not like the VP150. Granted, they tended to be extremely vocal, but there is a greater number of people who are very satisfied with these speakers. As for the EP500, I haven't heard anything bad about them!


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#76294 01/12/05 09:05 PM
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yeah, i agree. today is first time i've actually seen a post with someone doggin' the vp-150. i've had mine about a month now and had absolutely no problems with it. of course i only watch movies cause i'm a cheap bastard and i've only got bunny ears!


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#76295 01/12/05 09:10 PM
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I also agree with Ken and Mr. Boomstick The VP150 is a fabulous center, and in combination with my EP350, M60ti's, and 4 Qs8's, it is hard to imagine a better combination. I think the Norm is that you'll find no problems/complaints and the few exceptions, well there is always a few bad eggs


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#76296 01/12/05 09:12 PM
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I forget the name the knucklehead used (Guido?), but about a year ago some moron from the AV123 board came trolling through here to stir up trouble regarding the VP150. Maybe somebody with lots of time on their hands can link the original poster to that debacle?

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#76297 01/12/05 09:33 PM
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I think it was TonyGeno.

I have the VP100 and think it is wonderful.


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#76298 01/12/05 09:58 PM
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NOOOOOOO!!! Let that thread rest in peace.

I have no issues with funny sounding "s"s or anything else. The VP150 sounds wonderfully clean and clear. I measured it with an RTA while calibrating my sub, and it produced a flat response just like it should. If I ever get around to dragging out the mic and laptop again, I'll post the graph. I cannot measure or hear any off axis problems at 15, 30, or 45 degrees with either the SPL meter or the RTA software.

My big 65" Mitsibishi RPTV added some coloration to the sound of the 150. I didn't want the heavy 150 sitting on the top of the TV as some folks had reported that center channels were causing the top of the TV to "bow" over time (it's made of particle board). I built a "bridge" out of a 1x6 board supported by the outside edges of the TV, and the coloration went away. I didn't have the RTA setup at the time, so I have no idea what it was really adding or subtracting.

I don't know how many VP150s Axiom has sold, but Ken is correct - only a handful of people had any concerns. Most likely an odd room or positioning reaction.

But hey - maybe the rest of us are just full of hooey.

What part of the world are you in? One of us will be glad to let you decide for yourself, particularly if you bring wine or beer!


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#76299 01/12/05 10:02 PM
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darthkringle,

i would just like you to read some OBJECTIVE reviews at audioreview.com



http://www.audioreview.com/Center+Channels/Axiom+Speaker+Company/PRD_125695_2743crx.aspx#reviews



best of luck with whatever you decide

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