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#77840 - 01/18/05 12:01 PM Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
charlie Offline
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From what I've read the rear speaker placement should be on each side of the listening position, in fact I read that you were better of not having rear speakers at all then to have them behind the listener and aimed forward. I have a fireplace and window to one side and entrance hall on the other so the best place for speakers is on the back wall just behind my sectional (couch). If I'm using the QS4's or QS8's would it be a mistake to mount them on the back wall?




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#77841 - 01/18/05 12:06 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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Normally, you want some distance between the listening area and the surrounds and back speakers. Is the couch right up against the wall, or is there some space? There are some people that still mount the Qs4 or 8's on the back wall, but place them about 4-5 ft above your heads and slightly pointing downward. On the left and right surrounds, try to place them on either side, and maybe even slightly forward of the listening area.

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#77842 - 01/18/05 12:15 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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Are you doing a 5.1 set-up or a 7.1? If you're in 5.1, and you really can't place them along the side, you absolutely can put them on the back wall - you just should try and place them as much to the sides and (perhaps) a few feet above your head-level as possible. You just don't want them to be directly behind you in a 5.1.

In a 7.1, I would strongly encourage you find a way to use the surrounds along the side. That may mean getting some Axiom surround stands. Then the rear surrounds would be on the back wall, more directly behind you this time.

Hope this was helpful in some way...
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#77843 - 01/18/05 12:28 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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My sectional is against the back wall. I could pull it out 2 maybe 3 feet from the wall but that's it. The axiom QS4's/QS8's have a similar look to Aperion's surround sound speakers. On Aperion's website they give this in the description of their surround sound speakers "the 522D-SS features a switchable dipole/bipole design that offers complete flexibility in placement and use of a surround speaker. The dipole mode offers a diffuse sound field that some experts recommend for home theater. And the bipole mode can be used for multi-channel music or home theater installations that require placement behind the listener." So I wanted to know if Axiom's surround speakers would also work well for this, or if this kind of speaker placement is bad with any kind of speaker?

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#77844 - 01/18/05 12:34 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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It's a 5.1 setup because I can't afford the extra speakers plus I have no where to put them.

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#77845 - 01/18/05 12:34 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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The Axiom surrounds are actually quite different from the Aperion ones in one important respect - there are 4 drivers, not 2. There are the two you can see facing at (roughly) 45 degrees to the sides, but there are also upwards and downwards firing drivers. Also, so far as I know, the Axioms are not switchable in this respect.

That said, the Axioms are VERY forgiving on placement. I just went through this process myself (indeed, I asked a question very much like your own on these forums last week), and there are very few places where they won't work reasonably well.

As I mentioned above, you can put the Axiom surrounds on the wall behind you - but I wouldn't suggest directly behind - spread them out and up if possible, and you should be fine.
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#77846 - 01/18/05 12:40 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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If you can move your sofa off the back wall 3ft and put the Qs above and slightly behind the main listening area that would be great.
As stated above the Qs are a very forgiving speaker placement wise.
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#77847 - 01/18/05 01:02 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
charlie Offline
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Since my couch is a sectional one of the side facing speakers would be facing the back of it but at 36" the QSS stands are just high enough for the speaker to clear the back of the sectional. I still don't know what I'm going to do but thanks to everyone for the help.

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#77848 - 01/18/05 01:20 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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Hiya Charlie. Here's what the Axiom FAQ has to say about the subject:

Where should I place my surround speakers?
Ideally, surround speakers should be either wall-mounted or stand-mounted to either side of the couch or primary listening area, from one to six feet higher than seated listeners' ears, and slightly forward or rearwards of the listening area if you wish. Axiom's Quadpolar surrounds are especially versatile and can yield excellent performance with stand or wall-mounting to the rear as well as at side locations. (see our dedicated stands for the QS Surround speakers in the Store). Rear center speakers for 6.1 and 7.1 installations are intended to go on the rear wall at about the same height as the surround speakers.

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#77849 - 01/18/05 01:25 PM Re: Rear speaker placement QS4, QS8
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Hi Charlie,

I had really good success with the QS8's in an application similar to yours (sofa against the back wall, 5.1 surrounds mounted on that wall). The speakers were mounted to the sides of the couch, not directly behind it, and a couple feet above the listening position. It sounded just great. Mount them on the wall instead of using the stands if you can; cheaper and better, IMO.
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