Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!

Mark, to amplify what Jack said, we appear to have a miscreant who is coming in from a variety of directions, at different times, on a continung basis to simply cause problems. I'd suggest to all that when we find ourselves with a newbie that appears to be an idiot, he/she/it probably is.

To say it one more time - the best way to go at this nonsense is to completely and totally IGNORE IT. Without exercising that discipline, these threads will simply continue like this. Think about it - twice.

Again, I think its fair for someone to have a strong opinion about something and not be working for the company. I for one am a strong advocate of SVS. Why? Because they damn well deserve it. I have not heard an Axiom sub, or an HSU sub...but when I go to high end audio stores (save a 10" Sunfire subwoofer I heard) I've downright hated them all! I mean...I go places to demo receivers and speakers and I always walk away saying "that would have been better if it had a better subwoofer hooked up." For the most part subwoofers have been noise producers more than anything. Either that or they're horribly calibrated...so shame on those stores!

So, its easy to have a strong opinion, even after first impressions. I'm an advocate of almost all the components I own. But I can easily be critical of my own equipment if I hear something that is superior. In terms of speakers the only ones I've heard that are actually "superior" to the Axioms and those are the B&W 800s...which is completely unfair as they are $10000 a speaker. Ouch!

All this to say I think that the line between a shill and advocate or fan can be a very small one. Bottom line is everyone ends up having to pick a favorite somewhere. Even if they don't end up owning their favorite.

I heard a 12 inch sunfire and it was complete magic. It only cost $1600!

Shill!!! Shill I say!!! BURN HIM!!! BUUUUURRN HIIIIMMM!!!!

Unless he weighs less than a duck, that is...

No, no, Mark; if he weighs less than a duck, then he must burn.

You should burn him left-handed. If you use your right, it will be over too quickly.

BlueStater - I didn't attack you did I? You sound insecure in your response to me. You posted your findings and that is fine. You don't have to defend anything.

Was I wrong that I suggested that with fine tuning the VTF3's position you would have gotten better results? Heck even the $V$ (money saver reference btw)sub would sound better with proper placement. That is all. As I said your review is meaningless to me since I am a happy Hsu owner.

***I spent a week getting it where I thought it sounds good, and it took even more tweaking to really dial it in***.
1 - if you gave the other 2 subs the same attention ( I know it wasn't possible) you would have improved their sound as well. Which is what I was trying to say.

***So I did, in fact, "know that moving a sub even an inch can blah blah blah."***
2 - if you can't take constructive criticism either don't post it, or you may have some issues my friend.
Or you are very young

Hmmm, a whiff of familiarity???? A rose by any other name? Does anyone else hear the same music playing again?

I play my own music my friend. And this is a BB for HT talk.

Try enjoying life - there is more to it then subwoofers.

I am sorry I replied. I should have known better. Time to go by by!

This wasn't going too badly until "Truth" popped up and pushed it over the edge. I wish there was some way to limit people to questions for their first 10 posts. Always seems like the worst posts come from users with only one post ;(

Tdekany, the questions you asked were fine and reasonable, but the way you asked them was just a bit presumptuous and insulting. I think the point we're trying to make is that you could have asked the same questions in a more diplomatic way, eg :

- rather than assuming the Hsu didn't get the same attention re: placement, ask "you mentioned you found a new location for the SVS, did you get a chance to retest the other subs in the same location ?" etc...

Anyways, *I* thought it was a good review, but then again I own a PSB sub