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Considering the layer change only happens once during a movie, i just look at it as a good time for intermission and beer refill.
Mind you 2 seconds is not alot of time to do that either.

> Pretty much all the manufacturers besides Panny and
> Denon are still shipping players with the chroma bug...

From what I understand Panasonic makes the Denon DVD players. (Or at least used to) Which explains why neither of them have the chroma bug. I am really happy with my RP82, I haven't timed the layer switch but it is a lot faster then my previous two players. (Toshiba and Zeinth)

Michael

For the Toshibas model 3750 or higher with prograssive scan that transition time is definitely less than a second. I got the entry level older model 3750 and sometimes I never notice it or when I do its like a split second.

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From what I understand Panasonic makes the Denon DVD players. (Or at least used to) Which explains why neither of them have the chroma bug.

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No. The Denon had the chroma bug when they were first released. Denon had the foresight to make their gear software upgradeable. If you bought one of the first models, you can get a CD that will flash the player's software. If you bought one of the newer players, it's already had the fix applied.

And I've never seen anything to indicate that the Denon are made by Panasonic.

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I am really happy with my RP82, I haven't timed the layer switch but it is a lot faster then my previous two players

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1.75 seconds according to the article v. .25 seconds for the Denon. I had a Panasonic previously and it was enough to irritate me while watching. I don't like to be engrossed in a scene only to have a pause totally jar me back to reality.

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Semi

> And I've never seen anything to indicate that the
> Denon are made by Panasonic.

I may have remembered that wrong, but after a search my memory was jogged. The Denon 1600 was based on the Panasonic RP56, with some changes...

From: http://www.audioreview.com/DVD,Players/Denon,DVD-1600/PRD_130288_1587crx.aspx
"As many informed buyers will know, the DVD-1600 is a refined version of Panasonic's Faroudja based RP-56. Denon has made nominal improvements to the video section with quicker layer changes and the elimination of the flicker bug which plagued the RP-56. However, the audio section is pure Denon, and sports 2bit/192khz low-noise Burr Brown DAC's for CD and DVD-A playback."

I've seen similar information from various places, but this is the one I could find quickly.

Michael

I just got a new JVC DVD player and the layer change is almost unnoticeable. With our old Samsung player my wife and I would both yell "LAYER CHANGE" when the picture froze.

If you really want to get rid of layer changes, HTPC is the way to go. I haven't seen a layer change in 2 years.

There is a new DVD shootout on that website: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_1/dvd-benchmark-guide-to-progressive-scan-shootout-1-2003.html