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yes i only well have the onkyo reciever driving one speaker the surround back since i run a 6.1 system. the 755 outlaw is only a 5 channel amp. well there be a big difference in sound if i add this amp.

Smoke, the point is that if you're not using the full capacity of your 701 now(as is highly likely), then there'll be no difference in sound at all by adding still more unused power.

I agree. Don't get caught up in the "Upgrade just to upgrade." Take a look at what you are using and what you NEED.

Smokey, I think the most important channels are the front 3. I used an Onkyo TXDS 797THX receiver as a processor and outboard amps - I liked the sound much better than the Onkyo's internal amps. I used Onkyo M282 2 channel amps, then went to an Onkyo M504 honker for the front 2 and an Anthem PVA5 for the rest. On my office system, I use a Sony TAE9000ES processor and 3 mammoth Yamaha M80 amps. I rarely push more than 10 watts per channel with the Yammies, but holy samolies, they sound beautiful. The big Onk is stressed now that I went from M60 like Michaura M665 towers to a pair of huge Thiel CS3.6s.

One suggestion - buy used, go to ebay or your local classifieds and pick up some real high end 2 channel amps for a modest price.

so then what are the power amps for really. big rooms or to listen at high volumes or both. i only watch movies on my home theater and very rarely ever turn it passed half on the volume. so then for me it would be a waste of money then. so then what would you reccomend a power amp for. are they only used to power speakers in big rooms. i don't now mabey i should get a lock put on my computer so i can't look at electronics. well i'll probally put this idea on ice for the time being. but instead of buying another av reciever to upgrade,i think buying an outlaw amp would be the way to go. i think what i got is good for now. like lomb said don't upgrade just to upgrade. thanks for the help and info. i just got one more question what are the signs that your reciever doesn't have the power to handle the speakers on them.

I will try my best to answer these questions but others are far more qualified.

An amp can be used to drive set ups that demand a lot of current. I know that some out there feel the more power the better sound but I find that one hard to swallow. If you have a speaker set up that eats power to run them correctly (axioms are not one of those brands) then you may want to get an amp. Also, like you mentioned, if your listening levels exceed those of normal human beings then you may want an amp. If you want an amp, to ty out, get a used on at audiogon or ebay. I don't know the name of it but there is a canadian audio trader as well that you can use to save yourself on the import.

The signs that you need an amp are if when you turn your reciever WAY up it is still not loud enough.

Just my 2 cents.

The only reason I have a seperate amp is for 2 channel lisening. So once I went that route (money route) I went 5 channel. Will a hign end 5 channel amp, or 7 channel out perform a receiver in HT, yes, but not by a over whelming amount unless you get into a real ear critical high end discusion. Then you get into a new pre/pro addition, so look at about 8k to really do that right. I bought my amp 99% for real finite music detail. If i was looking at HT/movies only I would save the money, or spend it elsewere, have you seen some of the new HD projectors (LOL) just prioritize the funds on what's important for you, there is no absolute "right" answer.

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don't know the name of it but there is a canadian audio trader as well that you can use to save yourself on the import.

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i think lomb7 means Canuck AudioMart

it's a great place to look for used gear north of the border

i've come up with a solution. what i am going to do is just get 2 mono blocks for the fronts. then if i get a bigger room and go to 7.1 i'll get the 755 to run the other 5 channels. this way the fronts won't be sucking juice off the reciever i got and the fronts well have more then enough power. if the surrounds and center don't need anymore power then there getting then it pointless. so i'am going to try the two 200 models out, and if it doesn't sound different i'll send it back and choke on the shipping charges. it'll only cost about 700 bucks canadian for the two of them so with the money i save and the rest i have to spend on this stuff i might look at projectors(lol). then i'll have a hundred more questions. thanks everyone for the help.

Make sure you check around to see if you can get them used or at the very least B stock from Outlaw