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M2i Grill Question
#83542 03/02/05 02:34 AM
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Hey all you nice axiom folks...

I am about to order another axiom to serve as a surround back for 6.1. I Think I am going to go with the M2i. Question: Does the Axiom nameplate on the grill move? I would like to mount the M2i horizontally, so that it mirrored my 150 (though much smaller). I would prefer if I could spin the Axiom nameplate so that it is in line with the speaker. Any feedback?

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#83543 03/02/05 03:14 AM
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Hmmm...

Normally mounting n-way speakers horizontally is bad because you lose the stereo imaging effect, but I guess for a 6.1 rear that might not be a bad thing.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the nameplates are "riveted" onto the cloth (plastic pins poke through and are melted somehow) but I'm not sure. Only posting this in case it jogs someone else's memory.

Don't forget they look good nekkid...


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#83544 03/02/05 03:31 AM
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The ones on my M2is dont move. They are held down onto the grill frame by two plastic pins. Mine are relatively old though, the newer ones may be different.

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#83545 03/02/05 06:10 AM
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Nope. The nameplate is immovable. The most you can do is flip the grill upside-down, but you'll still be off by 90-degrees.

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#83546 03/02/05 07:05 AM
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Why not just give Axiom a call. They just might put that name plate in the location you would like.

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#83547 03/02/05 08:25 AM
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Worth a shot, but I doubt they could accomodate the request as they'd likely need to create a new grill frame mold just for that configuration.

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#83548 03/02/05 06:46 PM
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Don't forget if you have a single direct reflecting speaker directly behind you the sound will appear to come from in front of you. For 6.1 I'd recommend a single QS series speaker.


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#83549 03/02/05 07:41 PM
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... which already has the logo oriented correctly. How cool is that ?


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#83550 03/02/05 07:59 PM
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It also seems to me that placing a speaker on it's side is not the best thing to do.

I'm sure someone can pop in with the reason why, I used to know but those memory cells seem to have floated away.


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#83551 03/02/05 10:18 PM
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The problem with putting a speaker on its side is that you end up with a different horizontal location for different frequency ranges, which mucks up the imaging.

When the speaker is vertical all the drivers are in line.

The only reason centers don't have this problem is that they religiously use symmetrical driver layouts, eg. WTW or TWWWT. If you have two identical drivers side by side they act roughly the same as a single driver at the midpoint between them -- so if you look at any center speaker and replace symmetrical pairs with a single driver at the midpoint you end up with all the drivers at the midpoint.

Try that with a normal speaker on its side and it falls apart -- a woofer and a tweeter don't cover the same frequency ranges so you can't treat them as a single driver at the midpoint.


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